The Invisible Man

PostSat May 28, 2016 5:29 pm

DNA from ancient Phoenician stuns scientists
Published May 27, 2016

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DNA doesn’t give someone a big nose

A wax figure of “The Young Phoenician Man of Carthage” is seen during the opening of a special exhibition at the American University of Beirut (AUB) Archaeological Museum in Beirut January 29, 2014. (REUTERS/Jamal Saidi)
A study of the first DNA obtained from an ancient Phoenician reveals that the man had European ancestry.

The research team, which was co-led by Professor Lisa Matisoo-Smith of the University of Otago in New Zealand, sequenced the first complete mitochondrial genome of 2,500-year-old Phoenician buried in North Africa. Experts studied a man dubbed the “Young Man of Byrsa” or “Ariche,” whose remains were taken from a sarcophagus in the ancient city of Carthage, just outside Tunis, the Tunisian capital. Carthage was the center of the Phoenician civilization.

Analysis shows that the man belonged to a rare European haplogroup – a genetic group with a common ancestor – indicating that his maternal ancestry is linked to locations on the North Mediterranean coast, probably on the Iberian Peninsula.

The findings offer the earliest evidence of the European mitochondrial haplogroup U5b2c1 in North Africa, according to Matisoo-Smith, dating its arrival to at least the late sixth century B.C.

“U5b2c1 is considered to be one of the most ancient haplogroups in Europe and is associated with hunter-gatherer populations there,” she explained, in a press release. “It is remarkably rare in modern populations today, found in Europe at levels of less than one per cent. Interestingly, our analysis showed that Ariche’s mitochondrial genetic make-up most closely matches that of the sequence of a particular modern day individual from Portugal.”

Researchers note that, while the Phoenicians are thought to have originated from the area that is now Lebanon, their influence spread across the Mediterranean and the Iberian Peninsula. The Spanish cities of Malaga and Cadiz, for example, were founded by Phoenicians…

More, here:http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/05/27/dna-from-ancient-phoenician-stuns-scientists.html

 

~Well Well Well, what will Dr Duke say now? Maybe he will disagree with this particular DNA test because it doesn’t fit into his Jewish evolution theory. Truth is I dont believe this DNA test either, but this is how the Jews keep their DNA BS alive and well as the truth comes out.
The real question that every white person should ask is “How can a supposed white leader (not my leader) claim he is a Christian claiming we all come from Neanderthals?” Those who dont learn from history are destined to repeat it and those who desperately keep you from true history on their closed off propaganda shows are going to hell. Duke is a Doctor in History and MacDonald is a Doctor in Psychology (some Jew gave them a diploma), together they are doctors of dog doo! The Phoenicians NAMED Europe, how can someone be so obtuse to not understand the importance of that?  I could see if either one of them had a valid argument and actually debated on the subject, but there is no debate it is pure Jewish media! They dont want debate like the Jew media talking heads they want people kissing their arse so some unsuspecting innocent white person will be seduced by their quackery. Instead of seeking the truth on their own the naive newcomers surrender their spirits to these con men who wear their degree’s in the Jew fool system high and neither has ever read the Bible (I’ll prove it in a debate too).
Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
We knew Phoenicians were in Iberia with the Celts didn’t we? How do you distinguish a Celt from a Phoenician? You people have to understand that people who cannot figure out history and have absolutely no enthusiasm to do so are not leaders they are controlled opposition. This “Ziontific” organization claims this Phoenician had “European ancestors”, No folks, no no no no, Phoenicians had Phoenician and Egyptian ancestors (or maybe this particular Phoenician went both ways in the Jew Science world). Phoenicians (Israelites) and Egyptians were the Europeans ancestors.
Lebanon (White Land) will be punished for this, even people of Lebanese or Arab descent have figured this out (and the only true way they will become “blessed” and certainly not for helping the Jews). Our media appointed white leaders will never figure this out in fact it will be entirely discarded until the very last minute, then they will claim they were with us all along (right behind us all the way as the Jew says).
Notice how some scientific discoveries are praised and some are just not even there (like Jew pedophilia)? Do you think they would teach this in a Catholic school? How about a John Hagee type Protestant school? They certainly didn’t teach this in David Dukes school, but everything the Dukes, MacDonalds, Dankopf’s etc of the world teach is always used against them proving it was never the truth they were teaching at all. David Duke will happily take a Jews research and call it the truth if it fits into his agenda. Ladies and gentlemen it is not our agenda that counts it is the truth that counts and why this forum is wide open. To take a Jews research and make it your own because it fits into your agenda is treason. Free speech means entertaining all the angles among other white people (I could care less about the Jew angle), but our very own white leaders have absolutely no intentions whatsoever to allow any angle that makes them into the amateurs they truly are. They would have to go all the way back to the end of the line.
Think about it, what kind of benefit do we get from the history of Jews at the Frankfurt school? There was no Frankfurt school when Jews were poisoning the wells in France or bringing Black slaves to America etc. What good is searching for a “good Jew” to give him a voice over any white, like you and me? If these Jews are more important than we are to any whites are what does that tell us? This is the the very same liberal attitude that has caused every Jewish led slaughter on the face of the earth. Why do I call to separate from the Jews (and everyone else)? Because that is what the Christian God (the only one) says to do and these “doctors” believe he was talking to the JEWS! They agree with the separation part it’s just the God part they don’t agree with.
Folks that is not worthy of a degree of any kind it is worthy of a damned kick in the arse! The word “doctor” comes from “religious teaching” (meaning Christianity). Today’s definition is “teacher” like “Rabbi” today. What on earth could you possibly teach and be entirely against the Bible and or never read it (or both)? Folks that is indeed a Rabbi. If the Jew is truly contrary to mankind then the Rabbi’s are the brains of the opposition (and that’s all it is and nothing more).
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22 Responses to The Invisible Man

  1. melgibstein says:

    These groups like Stormfront, David Duke flunkies, RBN (totally jew controlled), Juif Rense (another Jew whop), Alex Jones, etc. are all on their perches telling you what you should believe whether it is UFO’s the the Guvt isnt telling us about (Juif Rense) or David Duke telling us George Zimmerman is white or that Obama is “half white”, you see nobody said Obama is a Jew, his half brother is a Jew, his white house chef was a jew, his wifes first cousin is a Rabbi and his mother is a jew (nobody even cares), but what do they want us to believe? Duke wants you to believe he is “half white”, Alex Jones wants you to believe he is a Muslim, Stadtmiller doesnt know unless he reads someone elses book and cant figure out his own ass is connected to some Jews vocal chords via Gerald Celente or Mike Rivero, Rense just calls people “Zionists” because he doesnt want to offend his family of Jews.
    Just imagine if these internet radio heroes got it right? How are they ever going to get it right when they kick us off their shows and put Jews and these retards in?

    Folks these people pretending to be your friend and use words like “we”, “our” “us” etc. are not “us” at all, if they were they would be telling the truth and not turning the truth into a pig sty! You need new leaders folks and you need to turn these networks off that sell you BS pills (300 lb. Dr Deagle selling you stool softeners and BSing you to no end), it is truly an insult. Someone who was of the truth and cared about the truth as they say would be apart from the BS. They prove every day they are not on our side by selling out and selling their listeners out. There needs to be focus on the Jews and Jews alone, they are the problem and they are the cause of all Americas problems, if they do not understand that and they do not express the importance of that………they are going to change as we change to remain in the lead to control you. A leader doesnt change with people, the people are supposed to change following their leaders. They will whisper whatever you want in your ear, but if they are back kissing a Jews arse the next day they are not fit to be any kind of a leader, they are Jews themselves, no leader is a liberal, being liberal is not warfare and if they dont think they are being warred upon you too are a liberal and will never do a damned thing but sit on your duff and be entertained by these liars.

    They are not working for us folks. If they were working for us they suck at what they do and should move aside. Notice that they have zero intentions of hearing Christian Identity people at all. Why folks? Could you imagine debating what the Bible says to John Stadtmiller who started GCN and RBN? Of all the broadcasting ever done he still has the typical Judeo Christian belief that Jesus was a Jew, he doesnt even know what a Jew is. Juif Rense (a complete nutjob) simply puts on UFO shows to make any truth that leaks out whatsoever into a circus. The guy is a total and complete clown! Alex Jones has had his 3 hour spot for years and is the biggest douche bag I have ever heard in my life, the guy has zero shame (there is no soul whatsoever). Where was David Duke when the Jews blew up the buildings on 9/11 folks? Under his damned bed thats where.
    Folks we need new leaders who arent Feds or weaklings. Which one of you would go into battle with any of these retards?

    Just think if we just said “Jews are destroying our country and we need to get them tf out?” Our Constitution has nothing to do with them. We can do whatever we want, it is our country!

    • Roger Martin says:

      UFOs are real it is just that they are demons and angels making the shapes. Satan can transform into fire, water, and even light (2 Corinthians 11:14, 1 Adam & Eve 27, Jasher 23). Angels can take forms of men (Genesis 19). Have wings and can fly (Zechariah 5:9). And demons have similar abilities because their parentage is of angels.

      The lie isn’t that UFO aren’t real, they are in fact real, the lie is that UFOs are from another galaxy or another dimension and are from ‘aliens’ from another planet. That a UFO is a ‘spaceship’. There are no other galaxies and there is no such thing as outer space. UFOs are simply Satan’s unclean spirits masquerading as bright lights in the sky. It is highly likely that demons were manifesting themselves as spaceships for millennia. Ancient Egyptian art clearly depicts flying ships with wings. In 1 Enoch the demons could see into Heaven by detaching their spirits from the giants. Satan’s had millennia to finalize his plans to deceive the entire world and become the ‘God’ he always wanted to be. Ancient aliens has been in the works for centuries if not millennia.

      Things like the Nazca Lines, Moon Landing Hoax, Crop Circles, are all just part of the deception.

      • DC says:

        The characters Mel mentions above are gatekeepers to be sure, but I agree with Roger that UFOs are demons and possibly the work of other higher inter dimensional spirits, but it seems that Roger can’t decide if they are caused by demons or are caused by the notorious project Bluebeam which was his last explanation.

        Possibly both will be used in the upcoming alien hoax. There is also evidence of secret bases deep underground where they are conducting hybridization experiments which allows spirits and inter dimensional beings to take human form and a whole bunch of other tricks that they are said to be about to unveil.

        I’ve been studying an alleged former “Illuminate” called Carolyn Hamlett who confirms in this interview that the much talked about “reptilians” are indeed real. They were genetically engineered by the Nephilim to be super soldiers back in Noah’s days.

        Of course you always have to be on your guard when anyone claims to be “former Illuminati”, but the more I listen to Carolyn the more I think her story is legit.

        As for galaxies, I believe this is correct, as the heliocentric model of the solar system and galaxy we grew up with at school is a deception, and many people have recently started arguing that the shape of the Earth is either flat or concave/inverted and that the distance to the sun and planets much closer than we were lead to believe and possibly the sun, moon, planets and stars enclosed within the concave Earth.

        However Carolyn did mention a “portal” to the Orion star system that spirits and demons apparently have access to. There are also claims that Satan’s unclean spirits and demons are present in the planet Saturn while one particular truther even claims that CERN is attempting to open a gateway to Saturn.

      • Roger Martin says:

        Project Blue Beam was used on 9/11 to project those fake planes. It likely was used during Super Bowl or other entertainment events as well. I doubt that our government has access to demons to use like that. Only Satan truly controls the demons. Belial (aka Satan) is the King of the Demons after all. Not all UFOs are demons just like not all miracles are from God. Some are from Satan like when Jannes and Jambores withstood Moses and some are imitation miracles or even complete frauds with man ‘performing’ them. There are both demons and Project Blue Beam. Not either. Satan and our government play all sides. But Satan will use Project Blue Beam before he can use the demons because he comes as ‘God’ before the pit is opened chronologically in Revelation.

        Earth is flat. You can see from rockets that earth has no curvature from the sky. Heliocentrism, round earth, evolution, big bang, moon landing, and so on, are all meant to make people believe that there are billions of galaxies with faster-than-light capable aliens. The White Nationalist movement is heavily into space travel and other galaxies. They despise that God only created one earth. They despite God. I’m not sure any of them are even white (Edomites? Crypto Jews?).

        There are no other ‘planets’. The old meaning of ‘planets’ was massalah in Hebrew which meant ‘stars’ or even ‘rain’. No one believed in other ‘planets’ like our modern system teaches. It’s an entirely new concept just like evolution or ‘landing on the moon’ or the ‘holocaust’.

        CERN is either a total hoax or the next Tower of Babel that can see into Heaven and the spirit realm. Either way it’s real purpose is not what they say it is. Looking for the ‘God’ particle. The God of Forces maybe. My guess is that CERN is tied into HAARP and Project Blue Beam. It’s all about causing rain, hail, and earthquakes to pretend to unearth ‘new’ archeological finds. These finds will show that ALL earth religions are corrupt and that all religions emerged from one ‘God’. And that God will appear shortly thereafter.

      • DC says:

        “Project Blue Beam was used on 9/11 to project those fake planes. It likely was used during Super Bowl or other entertainment events as well.

        I doubt that our government has access to demons to use like that.”

        I find it highly improbable the government pulled off 9/11 alone without the involvement of Satan’s hierarchy.

        What is known about Bluebeam anyway?
        Carolyn Hamlett said something about how they have experimented with genetics to create a host being that has amazing powers and can do remote viewing and I think can even projection of images. Might Bluebeam itself be an inter-dimensional technology based on genetically engineered hosts with such abilities?

        “Satan and our government play all sides. But Satan will use Project Blue Beam before he can use the demons because he comes as ‘God’ before the pit is opened chronologically in Revelation.”

        You are sure of yourself.

        Carolyn mentions a number of individuals that she thinks are candidates for the role of the return of Christ. I recall her saying something about having a genetically engineered body which can be entered by a spirit.

        “Earth is flat. You can see from rockets that earth has no curvature from the sky.”

        There is also IMO a strong case being made that it is concave and that what we see with our eyes is an illusion because light bends upwards. If it can be proven that light bends then there is a case for a concave Earth. The cited “proof” for the earth being concave is the Tamarack mine and rectilinear experiments.

        “Heliocentrism, round earth, evolution, big bang, moon landing, and so on, are all meant to make people believe that there are billions of galaxies with faster-than-light capable aliens.”

        Yes, although now scientists are discovering that the so-called “big bang” is evidence of God’s creation (go figure).

        There’s a guy on YouTube called Byron Preston who explains the physics of the universe and how all the dimensions fit together, which of course Satan has known about for an eternity.

        Unfortunately he then instructs his viewers (mostly Christisans) to meditate and open the 7 “Chakras” which I discovered is an Occult practice to summon demons. No doubt he provides a lot of good, legit information to appear credible and lure people into his trap.

        “The White Nationalist movement is heavily into space travel and other galaxies. They despise that God only created one earth. They despite God. I’m not sure any of them are even white (Edomites? Crypto Jews?).”

        Yes almost all Jews and Cryptos, Martin Lindstedt’s show exposes this all the time, readers of this blog are aware of the infiltration in WN

        “There are no other ‘planets’. The old meaning of ‘planets’ was massalah in Hebrew which meant ‘stars’ or even ‘rain’. No one believed in other ‘planets’ like our modern system teaches. It’s an entirely new concept just like evolution or ‘landing on the moon’ or the ‘holocaust’.”

        Planets are definitely something, but yes not what we are lead to believe.

        “CERN is either a total hoax or the next Tower of Babel that can see into Heaven and the spirit realm. Either way it’s real purpose is not what they say it is. Looking for the ‘God’ particle. The God of Forces maybe. My guess is that CERN is tied into HAARP and Project Blue Beam. It’s all about causing rain, hail, and earthquakes to pretend to unearth ‘new’ archeological finds. These finds will show that ALL earth religions are corrupt and that all religions emerged from one ‘God’. And that God will appear shortly thereafter.”

        All that is known about CERN is speculation, but there are strong clues it is Occult in nature such as the Statue of Shiva on the premises and the strange Occult dance they performed at the facility.

        There is also the strange phenomena of the Mandela Effect and a few other strange incidents like Airbus A330-30, which was ready to begin its descent into Santa Cruz, Bolivia, but then found itself ‘instantly and mysteriously’ over the skies of Santa Cruz, Spain over 5,500 miles (8,900 km) away.

        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_colisionadorhadrones11.htm

  2. melgibstein says:

    David Duke has said several times that “Jews are a race” because they call themselves a race. Maybe Duke believes Jesus is in hell boiling in hot excrement because Jews say this too.

    Just imagine a so called white leader standing out in front of an Army telling his soldiers what their enemies say they are and that we should believe them.

    Folks I dont care if Jews say they are Santa Claus it isnt what they say that you should believe it is what they say that you shouldn’t believe. Just think of the schizophrenic and naivete of claiming something is true because the biggest liars on the face of the earth say it is. The truth is Jews dont always say they are a race so just claiming that Jews say they are a race is a bold faced lie. Its funny how Duke uses the word “Jews” when he wants to get a point across but when Jews is used in a racial criminally sense “its not all the Jews”.

    Paul said “Jews” are contrary to mankind (Adam kind) and he didnt say “not all the Jews” he said “Jews” period. You see Duke likes pilpulism just like the Jews, they are a religion sometimes and a race sometimes and David Duke added another Jew “the good Jew”.

    If you continue to listen to hair splitting BS you will go old and bald before anything is ever done and thats exactly what I believe they want done, nothing! Mixing truth with BS is polluting, why not just say “we need to expel the jews”? If we cant even say it, what does that tell us? It tells us that our leaders are owned.

  3. melgibstein says:

    Sorry, I am not into subjects I cannot prove, the only subject I am interested in is the Jew Factor and the known fact that they are the enemy of this earth and everyone on it. I dont believe in anything else.

    • Roger Martin says:

      So you don’t believe in Satan? Demons? Giants? Hydras? Centaurs? Mermen? Fallen Angels? Genesis, Amos, and Enoch have giants the size of cedar trees. Revelation and Daniel and Isaiah have hybrid animals and hyrdras. 2 Samuel has men that are part lion. The Catholics wear Dagon hats. Bohemian Grove worships the night owl Lilith. That’s all in the Bible as a distraction from the Jews? Don’t think so. Satan came up with the round earth theory. Not the Jews. He’s the father of lies. Not Cain or Meyer Rothschild.

      Satan is the enemy of earth. Jews (Edom/Esau) are the enemies of Jacob Israel. Without Jews, Satan would just get different pets. Revelation has Satan getting cast into the Lake of Fire by himself. Not ‘the Jews’ as the ‘white’ movement are always so mindlessly paranoid about.

      • melgibstein says:

        Actually I heard Texe Marrs and Juif Rense on Texes site and what are they talking about? Bohemian Grove and bad white people involved in the Occult (suddenly its not the Jews this week). Whether it was giants in those days or Centaurs or Hydra’s is not important to me, I am only concerned in the battle we are in right now. I do not see UFOs nor have I ever seen UFO’s, I fly airplanes so I know the world is round, do a clean stall at 15000 feet and tell me what you see.
        Fallen angels are Jews, they are the adversary and nothing Jesus ever said I have ever disagreed with. I could care less about Alex Jones, Juif Rense and the rest of the Romper Room morons on the internet, they are all controlled op.

      • Roger Martin says:

        “Actually I heard Texe Marrs and Juif Rense on Texes site and what are they talking about? Bohemian Grove and bad white people involved in the Occult (suddenly its not the Jews this week).”

        Texe Marrs is likely a Jesuit. His website is filled with all sorts of subtle Occult symbols that he pretends are Christian. He also gives his “incredible truths” to people….for $19.95 plus shipping and handling. He’s also associated with Alex Jones to the point where he officiated Jone’s marriage ceremony…….to a Jewess.

        “Whether it was giants in those days or Centaurs or Hydra’s is not important to me, I am only concerned in the battle we are in right now. I do not see UFOs nor have I ever seen UFO’s, I fly airplanes so I know the world is round, do a clean stall at 15000 feet and tell me what you see.”

        You ‘know’ the world is round? Liar. Show me the scriptures where earth is a sphere. How can all eyes see Jesus at his second coming? How could the entire world see the tree in Daniel? How does earth have foundations as a footstool? How is there a firmament above us that contains two layers of water? The Bible is not compatible with a round earth and outer space. You’ve seen nothing. Flat earth is from Genesis to Revelation. By saying earth is a sphere and round you are blaspheming God’s record of creation. I guess the four corners of the earth is a lie? Revelation 7:1 is not literal? God mistakenly thinks his world is flat?

        Earth is flat. You are beyond deceived in this matter. I used to believe in the moon landing too. Then I read about the lies of NASA. Those Jews you hate……came up with the round earth model. Do you know why the U.N. logo has a flat earth map in it? It’s because they know the truth and mock everyone with it. You mock yourself with your arrogance regarding the shape of the earth. Your arrogance bleeds into your readership. Your obsession with race and the ‘Jews’ has blinded you to Satan and the demons. I guess if the topic isn’t “hating Jews” or “hating Mexicans” it becomes impossible to spiritually discern?

        You aren’t concerned with giants even though the last days are like the ‘Days of Noah’? Or the hydras from Revelation? Demons being released from the ground? Giants are one of the strongest themes of the ‘Old Testament’. Enoch, Job, and Genesis, the earliest books, all mention giants. David and Goliath is one of the most prominent stories in scripture. Giants are a major key to understanding Satan’s army. Ever wonder why some celebrities have six fingers and toes at birth? They must be related to some group from the Bible. Cain didn’t have six fingers and six toes.

        “Fallen angels are Jews,”

        WHAT? Satan is a Jew now? Fallen angels were there before the world was created. If you believe in the 7,000 years and then 8th ‘day’ Adam you believe that Satan fell millennia before Adam was formed. You believe that Cain was from Satan and Eve, right? Cain was half human half angel. He wasn’t an actual fallen angel. He was iron and clay. The toes of the statue. How does an angel fall and become a Jew? Do they retain their powers? Can they perform miracles?

        Where are you getting that the Jews actually fell from heaven? Only Lucifer gets that description in Isaiah. Jesus even said of the Jews that they are from BELOW. He was from above. Jesus was from above and Christians are born from above, right? So how can the Jews be also from above and be fallen angels? Jews are people with fallen angel blood. They aren’t angels with the capabilities of angels. They never fell from anywhere. One third of the angels fell from Heaven. They were once in Heaven with God the Father. You think the Rothschilds are literal fallen angels?

        “they are the adversary and nothing Jesus ever said I have ever disagreed with.”

        Where did Jesus say that fallen angels become Jewish people? Where did Jesus say that all ‘Jews’ fell from Heaven?

        John 8:23
        “And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”

        Is this the part where because I’m not racist enough you can dismiss everything? “Well he doesn’t hate niggers enough so don’t listen to anything he says”. “He thinks giants are more of a threat than a 105lbs Yiddish Jew”. “He believes the earth is flat so he must be retarded”.

        Christian Identity has more a race problem than the Black Hebrew Israelites at this point. Go worship your heliocentric round earth and actually try to beat fallen angels with a gun. Delusional. This is Christianity? Race obsession? Denying God’s earth? Paranoia about Esau and Cain?

      • Roy says:

        Question — Why do you come here? It is a serious question.

      • Roy says:

        Roger Martin — Why do you come here?

      • DC says:

        “Whether it was giants in those days or Centaurs or Hydra’s is not important to me, I am only concerned in the battle we are in right now.”

        I don’t think giants are a significant factor any more. Some may still exist in underground bases, along with any number of other abominations, but where does the Bible say that fallen angels are going to return in the end times?

        UFO’s are considered out on the fringe, but could certainly play a role in the enemy’s plan to bring in a false Christ. This is a prevailing view among many Christians. Tens of thousands of abductions are documented each year. This is fact, not a made up distraction promoted by the enemy.

        It is spiritual warfare and a part of the enemy’s game plan and is being fought on many other fronts as well.

        The unlocking of the bottomless pit is part or Revelation and is also thought to involve the unlocking of demons of the spirit world and so definitely of the battle we are in “right now” as far as I can tell, but it is debatable whether it is something we should overly concern ourselves with.

        God provides His own with some protection against evil spirits, so if we are with Him our side is protected. An important thing to know I would think.

        “Do you know why the U.N. logo has a flat earth map in it? It’s because they know the truth and mock everyone with it.”

        If the flat Earth model is a round flat disc as the UN portrays it to be, then it would seems to disqualify the “four corners” passage as a literal statement.

        I certainly don’t rule out the flat Earth theory, but I’ve not encountered any doubter of the heliocentric model who has conclusively proven the shape of the Earth one way or another. From what I can tell, Bible passages about the shape and nature of Earth can be interpreted in several different ways.

        You are correct about many things Roger. I will give you that, but I still see a lot of holes in your logic and reasoning, yet you act as if you have figured it all out and then call us arrogant.

        “Is this the part where because I’m not racist enough you can dismiss everything?”

        You mix up “racist” with discernment and then paint all of CI with the same brush. “Racist” a word ZOG uses to smear anyone who calls ZOG out for what ZOG is.

        Why do you use that word Roger?

      • melgibstein says:

        Does North, East, West and South indicate 4 corners, yes or no? The world is not always in reference to everyone or everything on the earth.

        I think Roger Martin is Walt, Walt is here to practice his pathetic Traditional Catholic views mixed in with the latest fads. He cannot accept CI because he married a mixed wife. He doesn’t understand that it is an unpardonable sin because it is death of the white race (if he is in fact even white at all).

        Your attempts at flat earth are fruitless Walt just like every argument you have brought up with me over the years and lost for all to see. I am with the truth Walt, you can never beat me.
        Your boy David Duke is telling his listeners that Trump has “one” child married to a Jew, but it is in fact “three” children who are married to Jews (just a slight error). Truth is if you are of the truth you are supposed to do a mea culpa and move ahead, but David Duke (Doctor Duke) is never wrong just like you Walt.

      • DC says:

        When the flat earth theory blew up recently I figured it was probably another distraction.

        It seems quite easy to disprove.

        On a flat earth model, flights from Australia to South Africa or from Australia to South America should take an unusually long time if the Earth is flat, yet there are commercial flights that cover the distance in the time you’d expect.

        These guys seem to have buried the issue in this thread.

        https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483

        I suppose pilots could theoretically be outright lying about the flight path taken, but surely over the years, people would have noticed they are flying over land instead of water.

        The concave Earth theory holds up to scrutiny a lot better. Flight times are exactly the same, but the plan must be slightly “up” at cruising altitude to maintain altitude.

    • DC says:

      You can’t exactly “prove” the enemy’s tactics. There’s a total fog of war. It’s like with the proverbial iceberg, 90% is out of sight beneath the surface water so you have to get into assumptions and speculation based on what evidence you have.

      One thing you can say about the Jews, they’re a lot more loyal to their master than we are to ours. The further I get into this, the more I fear the coming Judgement from God more than anything the Jews are plotting against us. You better be on the right side of Him when that comes down and I believe it’s not far off.

  4. Roy says:

    Roger Martin…………………..you just continue to prove your ARROGANCE. You have ZERO humility. You don’t even bother to take the time to actually “read” comments. You just teach and patronize.

    Mel said that he “didn’t care”, not that he doesn’t “believe”.

    Mel said — Sorry, I am not into subjects I cannot prove

    Roger……….get rid of the mirrors in your house. Stop worshipping yourself. You come here not to ‘fellowship’ but to, in some strange way ‘lord’ yourself over us here. You never hardly respond to questions. You don’t “dialogue”. You constantly patronize.

    Question — Why do you come here? It is a serious question.

    • melgibstein says:

      I can prove the world is round, I have flown all over the world in passenger planes, my father was a navigator in the Army Air Corps when they used Azimuths for flight direction which wiki claims was invented by Arabs, but the truth is it was invented by the Phoenicians (the people Jews dont like to talk about).

      Phoenician inventions are overshadowed by Roman or Greek inventions, but as a Scull and Bones member “Stimson” once said “History doesnt mean it’s always true History”. The Phoenicians were the navigators and inventors not Arabs (or even Germans). The first notable person to say the world was round was a guy named Pythagoras, but he was a student of other Phoenician Mathematicians and Astronomers who didnt have to explain the world was round to others because nobody else traveled as they did. Any commercial pilot will laugh at the “flat earth” BS because everything in flight is based on a round earth and the direction of it’s rotation.

      Wiki doesnt even say he was a Phoenician from Miletus and Tyre, guess who else was from Miletus? The Milesians, duuuuuh!

      The lie came from the Catholic church who wanted people to believe you would fall off the earth if you went too far away (stay and pay taxes), you see Walt dearly loves the Catholic church and will say the Phoenicians were the liars and not the Catholic church which he knows had Jewish bankers as Popes. The Phoenicians had no banks and had their own style of living uncontrolled. Unfortunately the nutjobs caught on 2000 years later and found them again outside the gates of Gibralter without falling off the edge of the “world”. Truth is they were all under Catholic/Jew thought control and most did not even have access to a Bible. CI knows that the apostles went straight to the Scythians and Iberians and had their own ecclesia (not church) the way it was intended before the Catholic church ever got there. Dont believe the Catholic Church was under Jew control? Ask Martin Luther who finally figgered it out, although he never figgered out Medici was one for some odd reason.
      Dont believe the apostles made it to Britain (another word for Iberians)? Look up in your Catholic Saints book for Saint Aristobulus who the guinea Jew Roman church says was stoned to death by barbarians in Britain (oh and before there even was a Germany- they duped the Angles long before they duped anyone in the British Isles). How would they know when there wasnt even a Catholic church yet (they sainted him like Saint Patrick some 400 years later- kind of adopted him like they adopted Phoenician inventions)? Was Aristobulus teaching people to throw down their arms and submit to Rome or was he teaching “Israelitism” (Rome would have thrown Aristobulus into a snake pit)? All you have to do is read the Bible and see where the church differs from Israelitism and you can see who the liars are. Whether the Catholic church was lying then or they started lying later on is the question, but anyone who has read the Bible knows they started lying at some point either way.

  5. melgibstein says:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=ea-bAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA1337&lpg=PA1337&dq=The+Phoenicians+-+Pioneers+of+Celestial+Navigation&source=bl&ots=OHtqkz4697&sig=fD-_XE62MTQdRbTPlVjiwLMIl4s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYisTmspbNAhUQOlIKHTkpBRYQ6AEIRTAH#v=onepage&q=The%20Phoenicians%20-%20Pioneers%20of%20Celestial%20Navigation&f=false

    Kind of odd the Phoenicians and the Polynesians were known as the “Pioneers of Celestial Navigation”. Kon Tiki, the movie hints at the point that they were both white people.

    Who built those pyramids in South America anyways, Mexicans? i dont think so.

  6. melgibstein says:

    Let it be known, I am not entertaining BS Flat Earth theory on this site. If you want to talk about flat earth BS go find a Jew, I dont want my site polluted with horseshit. This is the kind of BS the jews love, they love to make it look like everyone is just as much a liar as the Jew and just as bad as the jew.

    If that is what you believe get lost! I am posting here for anyone to see not to become a kibbitzer of Zachariah Stitchen jew nonsense.

    You first claimed the flat earth BS then the concave BS because it didnt work. Get lost!

    • DC says:

      All I’m saying is I believe we’ve been deceived about the Heliocentric view of the Universe, that we’re on a spinning globe that orbits a Sun 93 million miles away and are a small, insignificant part of the universe.

      Both Copernicus and Galileo worked for the Roman Catholic Church and were heavily into the Occult. NASA is Satanic to the core and lies all the time.

      I’m not here to muddy the water or to deliberately push this theory or that one, But I don’t buy the official line we were given in school any more. Not knowing what I know today.

      The truth has to lie somewhere. Then what is it?
      I think the Concave Earth theory has fewer holes than the flat Earth theory, but that’s just my humble opinion based on watching several YouTube videos from sources I trust.

      There’s a Christian guy I follow who also worked as an Engineer and has a mind for figuring out these kind of puzzles. For fun one day, he tried to debunk the Concave Earth theory thinking it would be easy, but ended up not being able to prove it was wrong.

      Here’s the link if you’re interested:

      He has a bunch of other videos too.
      Could he be leading folks to a red herring? Yes, it’s possible, but IMO so is NASA.

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