Excalibur

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Excalibur (n.)
King Arthur’s sword, c. 1300, from Old French Escalibor, corruption of Caliburn, in Geoffrey of Monmouth (c.1140) Caliburnus, apparently from Welsh Caledvwlch probably a variant of the legendary Irish sword name Caladbolg which might mean literally “hard-belly,” i.e. “voracious.” For first element, see callus; for second, see belly (n.).

callus (n.)
“hardened skin,” 1560s, from Latin callus, variant of callum “hard skin,” related to callere “be hard,” from PIE root *kal- (3) “hard” (cognates: Sanskrit kalika “bud,” Old Irish calath “hard,” Old Church Slavonic kaliti “to cool, harden”).

Its about everything but the root of Mi kah el and what that sword was for that he used.

No this thread is not about King Arthur, who most people believe was English. The truth is they don’t know what he was if you ask a person on the street, but this isn’t about Arthur it is about the name of his sword that has the exact same root as the sword of Michael the Arch Angel’s sword,which is the same root as spear, amour, shield, battle axe and many others, “kah” or “keh” with a “g” or a “q” or a “c” and sometimes an “h” and an “sh”. I am not going to explain this again here, if you have any questions how this can happen go to the “Like Mike” thread.

When we see Michael with a sword we have to also believe Michael used a sword before we even had one or knew what one was. The word “sword” in Hebrew was used over 100 times (easy) in the KJV and what Jesus Christ (Yashua) himself said he would return with.Is a sword just for Michael, the angels and Jesus? I have recently heard from one prominent member of the CI community say that Jesus is going to be the one to come back and do our fighting for us and that we don’t have to do anything. If this is CI I want nothing to do with it (I know it isn’t), it might as well be Jehovah’s Witness. Why have any weapons at all if we are never to use them? Are we only to use a weapon on a defensive position from our own people who unknowingly work for the Jews and God’s enemies? I agree we shouldn’t battle ourselves, but even that we know is impossible.

Often these CI pastors are telling us about being veterans and telling us to “lock and load” etc. Well why lock and load if you have God to do your dirty work for you? To help kill others for the Jews?

There would not have to be any lock and loading if we were separate, but we are not. So how do we separate like our God (YHWH) tells us if they do not leave if we ask (the Jews)? Can we live among them and do Gods will at the same time? Often these pastors use the parable of the wheat and the tares and that it means we should not pull the weeds from our garden and to let them run roughshod over us. Is that what the wheat and the tares parable is really about? Do you know what this would mean? It would mean that we should not have a law and not arrest people who break our laws and do absolutely nothing about these tares. Why then should we sell our cloak and buy a sword, to watch the weeds grow? What are we here for? To use a football term, are we supposed to hike the ball, dive on it so to run out the clock or are we here to win? Do we think we can win without God, I do not, but if we united against Gods enemies would he not be with us? How do we unite against Gods enemies if we do not get them out of our midst?

So many out there who don’t understand the Bible or think it is a Jewish book claim that the Jewish God is a murderer and that is why Jews are indeed murderers, but who does the Bible say their father is? Were we ever told to let the devils children slay us? If their father is the devil and he was cast below do you think he would not use a sword to slay us whether it was a physical sword or any number of weapons he uses? Why wouldn’t God bring a legion of angels to stop them? Because our people are so duped they would turn on the angels themselves. Why are they duped? Because they are not separate from the devils who have taken over their brains.This is similar to rounding up the cattle to the slaughterhouse when at any time the cattle could stampede the whole farm, but do not because they are dumbfounded. By the way as I noted in that same previous thread noted above, cattle or “cah tel” were also used in battle for that exact purpose, to stampede.

fff

Does the Ghandi approach really work with Jews?

When our pastors tell us we arent supposed to go to war against the Jews it is the same BS someone like Bill OReilly says about never being to be able to deport illegal aliens. We are told to do nothing so we are sitting ducks.

If people are told not to do anything because the Bible says not to do anything they are the leaven of the Pharisee’s hypocrites. Jesus did not send a legion of angels because people did not even know who they were or who their enemies were, John the Baptist knew who his enemies were and Peter who carried a sword knew who his enemies were (and used it). Certainly the Jews used swords against the Israelites or they would not have been in control of Jerusalem under the Romans (who also used swords).To claim that Jesus would have told the Romans (Israelites) not to use swords against the Jews is poppycock because he already did in the Old Testament times as Israelites.

 

So are we not to weed our gardens? God is going to grow our vegetables for us this year folks so you don’t have to get on your hands and knees and pull those weeds, just let God do it for you, see how that works out for you.

Exodus
And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
The sword is just for slaying our own and not Gods enemies?

Leviticus
And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

….but we don’t need swords because God is going to do everything. Why then do we even have enemies if God does everything for us?

The sword comes out when we are not separate just like the spear (“kah-yin”) came out with Phineas and some of the harvest was clearly destroyed with the weed. How can we praise Phineas and oppose him at the same time?

2 Chron

Moreover Amaziah gathered Judah together, and made them captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, according to the houses of their fathers, throughout all Judah and Benjamin: and he numbered them from twenty years old and above, and found them three hundred thousand choice men, able to go forth to war (milcahma), that could handle spear and shield.

Oh but certainly Jesus was against war you say, Texe Marrs says it, the Jewish CI pastors say it, the heathens say it, the Catholics say it, everyone says it including veterans (when it comes to the Jews that is). Nobody wants to fight the Jews, why is that folks?
Matthew
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (ma cah ee ra).

Luke
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Why buy a sword if you don’t need one folks? Moreover why sell whatever you have for one if it isn’t supposed to be used? Luke must not have been with Jesus during the parable of the wheat and tares. Why buy a sword if the angels are going to save us? Where were the angels during the Bolshevick Revolution or the Holodomor just to mention two?

We are a schizophrenic people following a schizophrenic God or we are under the same Jew control in certain factions of CI. There is a difference of being scared to take up a sword and being killed and deliberately interpreting the Bible wrong purposely, but it is still disinformation. If Jesus Christ said to buy a sword he was obviously a hypocrite to these pastors, priests and heathens, but I don’t think he was folks because God is not the author of babel.This one verse about the wheat and the tares is used to make us wait until the harvest to find out which are the wheat and which are the tares, but it does not tell us not to weed out the tares we know are tares and let the crop be destroyed that way as well. Why would we be subject to any laws at all if we were supposed to do nothing and pretend we don’t see the tares? The tares got inside because we let them inside and exactly what these priests and or pastors want us to do today and that has nothing to do with the parable. Do you remain separate with Satan’s kids or not? What did Jesus do for us? What did the apostles and John the Baptist do for us? Weren’t they killed for being the wheat among the tares? If we aren’t willing to sacrifice ourselves for the wheat as they did by separating ourselves from them with or without the sword we are the tares ourselves or will be eventually.
We either separate from the Jews or we take the sword to them, that is what the Bible says, one or the other or do we believe we can do or should do neither? If we cant follow Gods commandments nor fight why vote for a president? They will kill every leader we have and we will do nothing. We are obviously being deluded and not by a sword, but by our own message to each other.Its one or the other or its none of the two. As they say in the movie Logan’s Run “There is no sanctuary” we either fight together or we will be exterminated together. If we have both choices in the Bible I choose to fight and who in his right mind wouldnt? We can’t be in our right minds.

Jews are killing us with their God foresaken wars, with their race mixing and tearing down our borders, they are bringing in deadly drugs to our kids, control our media, assassinate our leaders, made every neighbor they have ever had into their enemy (and I mean neighbor in todays sense), they have decimated our women, our way of life, control our money system, control our governments etc etc etc.

And we have people telling us that everything will be fine if we just let God do it for us? If we were of God we would be doing it for him and our children (his children).

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114 Responses to Excalibur

  1. Roger Martin says:

    “When we see Michael with a sword we have to also believe Michael used a sword before we even had one or knew what one was.”

    The book of Enoch has references to how some of the angels introduced weapons to mankind in order to provoke murders and war. And how other angels introduced weapons and architecture to ward off the giants. The Dead Sea Scrolls have a scroll that mentions how Satan was able to withstand Michael and his entire army to the point where God had to give Michael a sword capable of cutting through spirit and light. The angels of Satan’s third also introduced things like birth control and makeup for women according to Enoch.

    “The word “sword” in Hebrew was used over 100 times (easy) in the KJV and what Jesus Christ (Yashua) himself said he would return with.”

    True, but also not true. Jesus Christ will not return with a literal swinging sword but instead he will simply speak words and defeat Lucifer and his entire army of both angels, demons, and men. There’s no way that Christ will use anything but words. He spoke the world into existence. Surely his words having power to create the world can defeat an army. When Christ healed people did he use a first aid kit? Or did he just speak the words and then they were healed?

    Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)

    For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    Revelation 19:15 (KJV)

    And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    Revelation 1:16(KJV)

    And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

    Revelation 2:16 (KJV)

    Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

    – – –

    The “sword of his mouth” is referring to the words of God. Not a literal sword that Christ will use to do anything.

    “Oh but certainly Jesus was against war you say, Texe Marrs says it, the Jewish CI pastors say it, the heathens say it, the Catholics say it, everyone says it including veterans (when it comes to the Jews that is). Nobody wants to fight the Jews, why is that folks?”.

    Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    – – –

    You can’t kill a demon. You can only cast them out. Where they either go into another living thing (Matthew 8:31) or are taken to Hell. But you can’t even cast out an angel. Nor can you even recognize one if it is in human form. How would you kill an angel? Angels take the forms of fully functioning men but are immortal and can’t even be wounded. The only way to contend with them is through God’s word or God’s intervention.

    – – –

    “Where were the angels during the Bolshevick Revolution or the Holodomor just to mention two?”

    I’m sure there were some watching over some Christian families. But the fact is that 99% of people who call themselves Christians will end in up Hell because their “Christ” only exists in their own deluded minds. They think “Christ” is for abortion, gay marriage, usury, and so on. I never saw the Holomodor or Bolshevick Revolution as Jews killing Christians. More like Jews killing a bunch of atheists and pagans (Catholics) that worship evolution-from-monkeys or “Holy Mary Queen of Heaven” that they bake cakes to (Jeremiah 7:18, Jeremiah 44:19).

    If all of America were to die today…..what percentage would you really say are actual Christians that will end up in Heaven versus Hell. Even a single percent?

    “If Jesus Christ said to buy a sword he was obviously a hypocrite to these pastors, priests and heathens, but I don’t think he was folks because God is not the author of babel.”

    Of course. The modern Christian movement has invented its own Christ with its own traditions. Christmas, Easter, tongue speaking, gay Christians, Mary worship, interfaith conferences, Christian ‘science’ with God creating the Big Bang, and on and on. Most people who call themselves Christians are against the death penalty……you can’t get those people to own a gun or a weapon because they are functionally and spiritually retarded.

    Think about how contrary to nature it is to not defend yourself. But this is the new gospel of the new age movement. The coming New World Order.

    But here’s the real reason why a gun won’t really save you. When the Antichrist comes it will be with a ridiculous entrance. A Godlike entrance. We’re talking flat earth announcements and showing that earth is flat with a firmament (look at the UN logo). Alien races and space travelers (Roswell false flag, Vatican saying that alien life is compatible with the Bible). Billions raptured into the heavens (Pre-trib rapture doctrine deception). Signs and wonders that will be insanely powerful and convincing.

    Matthew 24:24 (KJV)

    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    – – –

    If you were shown tomorrow that the earth truly was flat…..but that aliens also existed…..and that over a billion people are now gone from the earth….you’d have no idea what was going on unless you had the Bible warning you and God literally opening your eyes.

    I own a bunch of guns. But I barely even think about using them anymore. I highly doubt that our country will ever see a race war or some civil war. Martial law when it happens will be extremely peaceful because it will be under threat of an extraterrestrial invasion (Project Blue Beam). Millions people think Star Wars and Star Trek are real. They dress up as aliens every weekend. When the Antichrist announces that alien life forms created earth, the majority of people will believe it and accept their new masters.

    How will a gun help you convince your neighbors that the image of the beast isn’t real and that it’s just a false projection into the sky? Once the Tribulation gets started you’ll nearly be on your own as a Christian unless you attend a 100-200 person hardcore KJV/end-times type church.

    • Roy says:

      Hey Roger…….I’m still interested in how you believe all races come from Adam and Eve. Care to explain? You can email if you prefer — hobsroy@gmail.com

      • Roger Martin says:

        “Hey Roger…….I’m still interested in how you believe all races come from Adam and Eve. Care to explain?”.

        Roy….are you insane? I’ll explain it again. All humans come from Adam and Even. Whites, blacks, Chinese, Mexicans, and so on. They all came from Adam and Eve to a man. Acts 10:34. Romans 2:11. The only non-humans that look human on this planet are the angels impersonating humans and people born with six fingers or six toes. I will almost certainly guarantee that Jesus Christ will reject you and send you to Hell. I highly doubt that God has any idea who you are. God does not know you. Enjoy the lake of fire. If you think God cares about race then you must be reading a Bible that was created by someone who had their own ungodly agenda. Join the KKK where they worship dragons and are all Freemasons.

        ALL of the angels that made giants are reserved in chains until the Great White Throne. The Bible is beyond clear. ALL of the living giants were killed during the flood. But people still had angel’s blood from Ham’s wife and their offspring were cursed. “Cursed be Canaan”. But the giants were eliminated eventually. There are no giants now. If you think the curse of Ham was about race then you are beyond stupid.

        2 Samuel 21:20
        1 Chronicles 20:6

        Did God say kill black people? Or Chinese people? Or was God only telling them to kill the giants? I think man-eating giants were a greater threat than a bunch of painted savages. Why do you think angels gave us swords? To kill other people? Wrong. It was because there were literally 300-450ft tall giants eating humans before the flood. We’re not talking some 12-15ft freaks of nature…but literal monsters from mythology. And the angels couldn’t even handle Satan’s angels so they left us to fend for ourselves. God forbid the children of Israel from kill Esau and the Edomites despite that fact that none of them were from Abraham or believed in God (besides Esau). Because giants were a far more dangerous concern.

        You think those ancient Greek and Roman stories are fairy tales? You think cyclops and hydras and dragons are all from Lord of the Rings? Those are all stolen from the Bible. From literal history. What does Genesis 6:4 say about those ancient myths? That they are all true. I guess unicorns are fake as well? Angels were tampering with more than human DNA. They were making giant scorpions and birds and even 400ft tall humans with no souls. You think demons come from angels? Angels and demons are not the same thing. But modern “Christians” teach than demons are fallen angels when that is not even close to the truth.

        I think Satan, 1/3rd of the angels, and millions of demons, are a bigger threat than Jamal and his basketball team. I think only complete pussies worry over black people honestly. If some fag wants to quake in his boots over the Chinese or Mexicans then he can do that. I don’t care if America literally gets overrun by Mexicans tomorrow. I’d laugh. I’m on the lookout for dragons and demons and angels. My weapon is the Bible. Not a gun. Though I own both.

        Satan wasn’t the angel that created hybrid monsters. Other angels created giants and monsters. Satan’s first plan of attack was to get Adam and Even to sin and then to kill themselves by throwing themselves off of a cliff (he tempted Jesus with hurling himself off of a cliff as well).

        Then Satan wanted to kill Adam and Eve with fire. Not some ‘serpent seed’. That’s why Hell is eternal fire. That’s why God made the eternal punishment for Satan fire. Because he tried to use fire on Adam and Eve to kill them when they were young. Ever wondered why Hell is fire and burning and not some other punishment? After the other angels started making giants, then Satan changed his plan of attack because he kept failing. He failed to stop Jesus as well, thinking that getting Judas to betray Christ would cause Christ’s death, not knowing that the entire point of Christ’ first coming was his death.

        But if you think Satan’s children have been walking the earth since Adam and Even then you are insane. It took him millennia to create a seedline that didn’t look like a hideous grotesque freak. I’d guess that Satan didn’t figure out how to make a person without six fingers or toes for at least a few thousand years. And that’s just fingers and toes. And people are STILL born with extra toes and fingers. Ever seen the eyes of certain celebrities? How they are slit like? Or pure black? Satan STILL can’t get it right. I bet even the Antichrist will have messed up features. You think the plastic surgery industry is all about sex appeal? It’s about removing people’s sixth toes and sixth fingers. Making the dragon’s children look human.

        I think everyone can figure out that the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Du Ponts, and the like are all related to the devil. But all black people being Satan’s seed? Being beasts of the field? All Japanese people? Delusional. Retarded. Certainly nowhere to be found in the Bible. Blacks and Mexicans are a DISTRACTION from people like the Rothschilds. And not only that but blacks and Mexicans can be Christian like anyone else. Fact according to the Bible. Maybe not the pedophile C.I. Bible that you read. But fact according to the KJV and original Greek.

        Adam and Eve were white. Jesus was white. That’s obvious. God is likely white, but blindingly pure white. Not ‘peach’ white like humans are. White people are not even white. They are peach colored. And black people are mostly brown and hardly any are more black then brown. Where are the other races from? From the Tower of Babel. 70 languages. 70 races. That’s what Moses believed. That’s what Joshua wrote in Jasher. That’s the number of families in Genesis. And yes I am against race mixing generally.

        I think the Shem, Ham, Japhet race theory is retarded. There are 70 races. Not all white people are the same. Blonde hair and blue eyes and tall. Red haired, green eyed, freckles, and short. Dark hair and blue eyes and pale skin. You really think all white people are the same? That there are three races? Not from the Bible.

        The Bible is not a racial book. Never has been. Never was. The push for the Bible being about race is a new teaching that has zero basis in scripture. It is just another fraud like Zionism or the pre-trib rapture or Sons of God being from Seth or Jesus being a Khazar.

        Give me those CLEAR verses where God says “blacks can’t be Christians”.

        “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”

        “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

        “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”.

      • DC says:

        Roger, then why is there such an effort to ram evolution down our throats?
        Why the subtle, yet clear efforts of the political class to destroy White culture and civilization?

        The reason I find dual seedline so compelling is because of this radical efforts to dumb down the population on racial matters and to destroy Christianity.

        Why is there a need for such a massive wide-scale coverup and why is the white race in the cross-hairs? How do you explain it?

      • @Roger Martin February 29, 2016 at 8:59 pm

        Chapter and verse for “But people still had angel’s blood from Ham’s wife”?

      • @DC says: February 29, 2016 at 11:32 pm

        “Roger, then why is there such an effort to ram evolution down our throats?”

        Christians embrace evolution. They believe that all races descended from Adam and Eve. The Holy Scriptures say no such thing.

        “Why the subtle, yet clear efforts of the political class to destroy White culture and civilization?” Genesis 3:15

        “The reason I find dual seedline so compelling is because of this radical efforts to dumb down the population on racial matters and to destroy Christianity.”

        Christianity is part of the enemies war on Israel. How can you fight that which you believe to speak the words of truth?

        “Why is there a need for such a massive wide-scale coverup and why is the white race in the cross-hairs? How do you explain it?”

        He cannot explain it using the Holy Scriptures. They are racial. Amos 3:2. Genesis 32:28, Matthew 15:24 and hundreds maybe thousands of other verses. But above all that flesh is Spirit.

      • Roy says:

        Roger Martin @ “Where are the other races from? From the Tower of Babel.”

        Thank you. I do not believe you mentioned The Tower of Babel until now.

        Follow up Question — Is it your belief that the families of man, who descended from Adam prior to the tower of babel event were a homogenous race?

        You admit that Adam was most likely a White man. Therefore one could assume the families of Adam ‘prior’ to the Tower of Babel were all White/peach in skin tone.

        Is it your belief that at the Tower of Babel, the Creator turned a peach looking man into a black looking man; a yellow looking man; a red looking man etc., etc.?

        Thank you for your time.

        Ps…..Will your God throw a man into Eternal Hell Fire for not knowing with certainty ‘how’ the Races came to be?

    • melgibstein says:

      Good point up top, Roger, but the rest I do not agree with. Jesus is coming with that sword to divide us, not them, they are going into the lake of fire, but you nailed it up top when you said the angels introduced these weapons to us. Are they hypocrites? Be careful on that one.The truth is our weapon among ourselves, the sword and the spear, the shield, the sling, the battle axe are our weapons against the Jew (whatever it takes). If we are so blinded into not fighting that is a major malfunction. What good is the truth without defending it? It is a fairy tale in itself.

      Bottom line is we can fight the Indians, the Chinese, the Vietnamese the Afghani’s, the Iraqi’s and even ourselves (all the time), but we dont ever fight the Jews even when they have slaughtered us and others throughout time. If this is the Christian way, it is BS.

      • Roger Martin says:

        “[T]he angels introduced these weapons to us. Are they hypocrites? Be careful on that one.The truth is our weapon among ourselves, the sword and the spear, the shield, the sling, the battle axe are our weapons against the Jew (whatever it takes).”

        The angels feel guilt over Adam and Even. At least some do. Some good Angels showed us weapons to defeat the giants and the other monsters. But Satan himself showed Cain how to beat Abel to death using tools and heavy stones. And Satan even showed Adam and Eve how to kill with fire and blunt force trauma. Satan’s use of fire to kill caused Jesus Christ to create Hell for the Angels that sinned so that didn’t work out too well for the devil.

        So yes…..I’d say that some of the Angels are certainly dangerous and our enemies. Michael himself could not contend with Satan (Jude 1:9). The Angels could not figure out how to give us the ability to contend with Satan as they themselves failed. The Angels of Michael would have lost Heaven if it wasn’t for Jesus winning for them.

        “If we are so blinded into not fighting that is a major malfunction. What good is the truth without defending it? It is a fairy tale in itself.”

        You can see it…..that the world is about to explode. Riots, food riots, total economic collapse, world war, water shortages. When those happen….then you’ll see white people and Christians fighting in the streets and killing to protect themselves. But things are actually rather peaceful in America right now. We still aren’t quite there yet.

        When martial law is declared. Or when the government starts WWIII. Or if there is a total economic collapse into martial law. Then you’ll see a civil war. But my guess is that the wars will not last. The Aliens will come (demons). And then the Antichrist will put an end to WWIII and declare himself God. I am 99% sure that the Bible’s “strong delusions” refers to outer space and Aliens and that “outer darkness” being mentioned so many times in the Bible is a reference the how these fake Aliens are nothing but demons.

        “Bottom line is we can fight the Indians, the Chinese, the Vietnamese the Afghani’s, the Iraqi’s and even ourselves (all the time), but we dont ever fight the Jews even when they have slaughtered us and others throughout time. If this is the Christian way, it is BS.”

        I don’t agree. The Jews blow up the WTC and so we fight the Afghan people and Iraqis? We shouldn’t be fighting anyone. ALL Wars are Jew Bankers Wars. Even the American Revolutionary War was just another Jew War. George Washington was a Freemason. But how do you kill the Jews? How can you kill what you can’t see? Most high level Jews have white names. You’d never be able to identify them all. It would be a fool’s errand.

        If you go by the Bible end times timeline….the Great Tribulation is likely 75 days long. So Christians likely at most need 75 days of food and ammunition. But the government won’t be helping. That’s a LONG time to go without a single grocery store or government store giving you food or water. And on top of that the government and most of society will have turned on Christians at that point because of the Noahide Laws. And people will be openly worshiping the Antichrist at that point so no one will be neutral to give you help. Should be fun times when it happens.

  2. DC says:

    People may be dumbed down, but I have a hard time believing they are so naive as to believe that Star Wars and Star Trek are real and would fall for such a blatant hoax, but wonders never cease to amaze me and I may be proven wrong about this.

    The Vatican has made several bizarre statements about aliens in recent times so there may well be some truth to your Bluebeam/Antichrist theory.

    I have learnt not to drop Martin Lindstedt’s name around here lightly, but he has some Tribulation theories which, I think are relevant to this thread and on which he’s based a CI political movement which he calls a “10,000 warlord” program.

    His belief that during the great tribulation, 90% of the population will be exterminated (whites and non-whites) before any meaningful change will occur.

    Only a small remnant of decentralized “warlords” will remain who will follow his CI doctrine and will do the job of securing God’s Kingdom on Earth. Like those “Barbarians” who sacked Rome when the empire collapsed, (who were actually Israelites).

    Contrary to the Rapture BS, there is a recurring theme in the CI literature of a literal battle on Earth and not a spiritual one in the heavens. So basically I see Rapture as an obvious psy-op by the Devil to remove us from the battle field before fighting even begins.

    • Roger Martin says:

      “People may be dumbed down, but I have a hard time believing they are so naive as to believe that Star Wars and Star Trek are real and would fall for such a blatant hoax, but wonders never cease to amaze me and I may be proven wrong about this.”

      Do you read the Bible? Or talk to young people? Because this is outright explained in the Bible. That in the very last days people would deny creationism and say that mankind appeared for literally any other reason. Such as spontaneous evolution, big banging into existence, aliens creating us, and so on. Read 2 Thessalonians 2:11 and all of 2 Peter. How many people literally believe in Adam and Eve……versus evolution? Huge percentages of people already think that aliens walk amongst us. Most “Christian” churches teach that evolution is compatible with scripture. The Vatican literally teaches that there are space traveling aliens. This is the insanity of the last days before the end of the world. Where people are flocking to abortion clinics, fags being married in the streets and having parades, where the most popular shows are called “American IDOL” for idolatry.

      They are right that there are aliens. But it’s not aliens from outer space. They are demons or fallen angels. But if you don’t believe in God….then your only logical explanation for demons and angels are “aliens”. When angels will show miracles like fire from the sky or walking on water…..people will say “it’s aliens” rather than “it’s Jesus Christ”.

      “The Vatican has made several bizarre statements about aliens in recent times so there may well be some truth to your Bluebeam/Antichrist theory.”

      What do you think the Image of the Beast is? And that ALL eyes can see it and worship it? What do you think happened on 9/11? You think the ‘no plane’ theory is crazy? It’s the truth. People have been falling for holographic images for decades now. Anyone who is dumb enough to think that there were planes on 9/11 crashing into the WTC will EASILY fall for the Antichrist and his alien visitors. If people are stupid enough to think those planes were real then they will be stupid enough to be duped by a holographic rapture.

      “Contrary to the Rapture BS, there is a recurring theme in the CI literature of a literal battle on Earth and not a spiritual one in the heavens. So basically I see Rapture as an obvious psy-op by the Devil to remove us from the battle field before fighting even begins.”

      CI literature? Written by who? Some pedophile? Some idiot. Try reading the actual Bible and not what some moron has made up for his own version of the end times. The Rapture is STRAIGHT out of the Bible. If you are not raptured then the odds of you not going to Hell for eternity are quite low. Near zero. If you deny the rapture of the saints then you are likely done with getting into Heaven. The pre-tribulation rapture is a lie. But the rapture is the truth. It’s just AFTER tribulation. The lie is not that there is a rapture, it’s simply the order of the rapture versus when the great tribulation happens.

      How am I able to understand so much? By literally reading the Bible 99% of the time and man’s writings the other 1%. Trusting any pastor over the Bible is a fool’s game. Trusting anything I’ve written over the Bible is a mistake. Check everything with scripture. During the last half of the Antichrist’s seven-year reign, God will pour his wrath out on the entire earth. Why would a saved Christian be on the earth for that? Ever read Amos? Isaiah? Ezekiel? Daniel? Revelation?

      Here is Daniel’s 70th week based on what I can tell. The Antichrist comes into power one day. He rules for 3.5 years with war. Lots of people die. But after 3.5 years, all Christians are raptured. Then, immediately (after 30 minutes precisely), God pours his wrath upon the earth for 3.5 years straight. After the seventh year, all Christians return to earth, in new bodies, and destroy the devil and his army (where they are sent to Hell to burn for 1000 straight years). The remaining humans who survive the entire seven-year period but who aren’t Christians, are given a chance to live in the final millennium of earth and repopulate the earth.

      There’s NO race war in the Bible for the end times. Or 90% of people being killed. Or some giant earthly battle. These are lies from morons that don’t read the Bible over and over and have vain imaginations and have to invent their own version of the end times to sell for $19.99 in paperback. The Bible is beyond clear. NO ONE can come close to beating the devil until Jesus Christ returns. Show me where the race wars are fought against the devil in the King James Bible…………

      Revelation 11:7 – The Beast….shall overcome them.
      Revelation 13:4 – Who makes war against the Beast….always loses.
      Daniel 7:21 – Satan prevails against the saints.

      • DC says:

        Roger, I do not come from a religious background, nor do I have time to study scripture as much as I’d like to. A few years back, I went looking for a better understanding of world affairs and ended up here. So I’m probably not what you’d think of as a typical Christian who reads the Bible and goes to Church on Sundays.

        On Bluebeam, I think you may be right they are planning something and that many may fall for it, but there will always be many others who remain skeptical. Large segments of the population are non-religious types and so will not be indoctrinated by Church dogma.

        Depends how they they employ it, if they use it as a subconscious event in the periphery i.e. UFO imagery in the sky, then it may be effective as a psy-op. They seem to already be doing this.

        A blatant “visit” from aliens, which the mainstream accepts as fact would seem like a more risky move, however I am also a believer of the no plane theory and that holographic imagery may have been used. A real plane would not penetrate through steel beams yet people did indeed witness a “plane” in the sky.

        “They are right that there are aliens. But it’s not aliens from outer space. They are demons or fallen angels.”

        There’s someone I follow who has also proposed that so-called aliens are in fact surviving Nephilim. Someone else I follow believes that the Book of Enoch is a fraud written by Enoch, the son of Cain and that it’s purpose is to push the Alien agenda.

        It’s a subject I’d like to get to the bottom of, but haven’t had time to look into.

        “CI literature? Written by who? Some pedophile? Some idiot.”

        Comparet, Swift, et al. Proponents of dual seedline Chritian identity.
        Not that they’re necessarily more “legit” than scripture, but certainly more so than mainstream Church doctrine and in that they brought dual seedline theories to a wider audience and that they are (in my opinion) a compelling theory that explains current events that re unfolding.

        “The Rapture is STRAIGHT out of the Bible. If you are not raptured then the odds of you not going to Hell for eternity are quite low. ”

        Alright, well I was believing that Rapture was a Christian/Zionist thing.

        So where in scripture does it say the Antichrist will reign for seven years? I have not been able to find any clear confirmation of an Antichrist in scripture. Daniel you say?

        It’s my understanding that when we die our souls are preserved until judgment. Where does it say in the Bible that Christians return to the earth in new bodies?

        It is also my understanding that if you do not pass Judgment you will simply cease to exist and that burning for eternity in hell is a punishment reserved only for immortal beings.

        “Show me where the race wars are fought against the devil in the King James Bible…………”

        Where did I say anything about a race war?

        What I stated is Lindstedt’s belief that ZOG Babylon will fall apart (like all Evil empires do) and there’ll be a horrible civil war in which 90% of people die. This is NOT taken from the Bible, but is one possible prediction of how the Great Tribulation will unfold.

        It’s true that in such a scenario there’ll probably be divisions among ethnic lines which is mentioned in the book “Civil War II – The Coming Breakup of America” http:\\www.resist.com\WII.pdf, which Lindstedt has based many of his beliefs on, but according to Lindstedt most of the battle will be white on white.

      • Roger Martin says:

        “So I’m probably not what you’d think of as a typical Christian who reads the Bible and goes to Church on Sundays.”

        Going to Church means not that much if your Church preaches “gay marriage” and global warming and whatever nonsense. Or if it is a pagan-Catholic Church. There are churches that literally are having Star Wars themed services. You are almost always best off reading the Bible as much as possible before ANYTHING else. And if you read something anywhere…always double check it in the Bible or the other scriptures (Jasher, Enoch, Apocrphya, Hebrew/Greek).

        Church is basically the land of false prophets right now. We are in the end times so finding a good Church is nearly impossible.

        Literally 100% of the “Churches” near me are Zionist Jew Worship centers.

        “On Bluebeam, I think you may be right they are planning something and that many may fall for it, but there will always be many others who remain skeptical.”

        Just this week the media floated the idea of Hillary Clinton declassifying Area 51 information if elected. Just do a search in the news of Clinton and “Area 51”. It is obvious that they are setting us up for the fake alien invasion to bring on the Antichrist. One day you’ll remember that I warned you of just how far Satan would go to deceive the world and you’ll know exactly what this alien “invasion” is when it happens. Others will not be so fortunate.

        “A real plane would not penetrate through steel beams yet people did indeed witness a “plane” in the sky.”

        No one witnessed a plane though. The first media reports were just “explosions”. The later eyewitnesses were the ridiculous “crisis actors”. The same kind that found perfectly preserved passports in the rubble.

        There’s a great series of videos called “September Clues” that show how literally all of footage of planes submitted by “amateur” individuals are actually from people who work in professional media. It also shows the Project Blue Beam trickery and media manipulation used on 9/11. They have a great shot in the documentary of the missile literally shooting right through the first tower and then exploding after it has protruded a good 10-15ft outside of the building.

        “There’s someone I follow who has also proposed that so-called aliens are in fact surviving Nephilim. Someone else I follow believes that the Book of Enoch is a fraud written by Enoch, the son of Cain and that it’s purpose is to push the Alien agenda.”

        Enoch is from at the very minimum three centuries before Christ. And it is EXTENSIVELY quoted in both the Old and New Testament. Jesus talks it about directly in Matthew 22:30 and Jude quotes Enoch directly. People who deny it is scripture are either highly confused or outright Satanic. Enoch shows the devil’s best weapon to attack mankind. His own Serpent Seed. People who deny Enoch will go blue in the face when you mention how Angels can mate with humans to produce giants (and Rothschilds).

        Enoch says that angels and demons are different beings. That demons are spirits from giants and monsters. And that ten percent of them were left on earth to roam and afflict people after their bodies were wiped out in the Great Flood. While the other ninety, their spirits, are cast into the pit to await the day of torment.

        If you’ve read the entire Bible, and then read Enoch, it will be difficult to deny that the Book of Enoch is a Godly book written directly by the Enoch. I went into Enoch extremely skeptical but now I read it often.

        “Alright, well I was believing that Rapture was a Christian/Zionist thing.”

        Pre-trib Rapture IS Zionist. Post-trib Rapture is the Biblical truth. There is a Rapture. But the debate is about when it happens.

        The Khazars are pushing for the idea that right BEFORE Tribulation…..God will remove all Christians from the world and save them from suffering. But Matthew 24:29 clearly says AFTER the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened. Once the sun is literally darkened from the sky, then Christians who are still alive will be taken to Heaven (if you haven’t been murdered by Noahide Laws already that is).

        “So where in scripture does it say the Antichrist will reign for seven years? I have not been able to find any clear confirmation of an Antichrist in scripture. Daniel you say?”

        This is beyond complicated. Calculating Daniel’s 70th weeks is all sorts of study. If you google image search ‘daniel’s 70th week’ and look at some charts, you’ll get an idea of what people are going for. But it’s something that almost no one agrees on in terms of the order of events. But basically Daniel’s 70th week refers to the events of the true end times of the world.

        The phrase “time, times, and half a time” are in Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, and Revelation 12:14.

        Time is one year. Times is two years. Half a time is half of one year. So time + times + half a time = 3.5 years. And the Antichrist rules for double that. So seven years total. The Bible says that the Antichrist rules for two periods of 3.5 years and that the midpoint is the Rapture of Christians.

        So the reason the Bible divides the seven years into two 3.5-year periods is that Christians are only present for the first half.

        “It’s my understanding that when we die our souls are preserved until judgment. Where does it say in the Bible that Christians return to the earth in new bodies?”

        Luke 20:35-36. We are brought back to life. Revelation 20:2-5. Satan is sent to Hell for 1,000 years of peace on Earth. All Christians are revived to live on Earth for 1,000 years of no war (Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:3). It’s called the Millennial Kingdom or Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ.

        “It is also my understanding that if you do not pass Judgment you will simply cease to exist and that burning for eternity in hell is a punishment reserved only for immortal beings.”

        Hell is eternal. Here’s a few verses on the eternal punishment of Hell. Make no mistake, angels, demons, and non-Christians will spend forever in Hell. Burning and screaming in misery. That’s why being Christian is more important than having eyes and arms.

        Revelation 14:11
        Isaiah 66:24
        Jonah 2:6
        Jude 1:13
        II Thessalonians 1:9

      • DC says:

        Thanks for clarifying a few points Roger, although I still find it compelling the argument that Adam and Eve were the first of a new racial linage and the Covenant made with the pure descendants of Jacob/Israel.

        “Church is basically the land of false prophets right now. We are in the end times so finding a good Church is nearly impossible.”

        Yes everything’s under Satan’s administration/

        When I was younger, religion made no sense. When I discovered CI it made perfect sense and why it made no sense before makes perfect sense too.

        “Just this week the media floated the idea of Hillary Clinton declassifying Area 51 information if elected. Just do a search in the news of Clinton and “Area 51”. It is obvious that they are setting us up for the fake alien invasion to bring on the Antichrist. One day you’ll remember that I warned you of just how far Satan would go to deceive the world and you’ll know exactly what this alien “invasion” is when it happens. Others will not be so fortunate.”

        I don’t outright deny that something’s going on. The claim that they’re planning an “Antichrist” I have heard before, but evidence seems a little sketchy. The best evidence seems to be these bizarre announcements they coming out with, that seem to set the stage for what might be a future fake alien invasion.

        On a related note. John Schindler an ex-NSA analyst who I follow said when he worked in the services he looked for secret alien stuff in the archives and came up empty. It certainly looks to be a great deception in the works.

        “No one witnessed a plane though. The first media reports were just “explosions”. The later eyewitnesses were the ridiculous “crisis actors”. The same kind that found perfectly preserved passports in the rubble. ”

        Not quite true. Hardly anyone witnessed the first plane as it caught everyone off guard, but all eyes were on the second plane, which was captured by at least 50 different cam corders. Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8rnKtxDV8

        There was definitely an object in the sky in the shape of a plane, but it was unusual looking and did not seem to have a reflection. It may certainly have been a holographic projection from the analysis I’ve seen which I think is credible.

        I have heard of September Clues, but do not find the argument that the entire thing was faked very compelling. Some of it perhaps, but it was far too complex an event to stage it all. Also there’s a lot of BS “analysis” surrounding 9/11, takes a while to figure out who’s reliable and who’s not and Simon Shack’s did not seem to hold up too well IMO.

        “People who deny it is scripture are either highly confused or outright Satanic.”

        “If you’ve read the entire Bible, and then read Enoch, it will be difficult to deny that the Book of Enoch is a Godly book written directly by the Enoch. I went into Enoch extremely skeptical but now I read it often.”

        I have been a bit skeptical of this claim. Could be that this is deliberate disinformation to confuse the Christian. Nothing would surprise me.

        “Luke 20:35-36. We are brought back to life. Revelation 20:2-5. Satan is sent to Hell for 1,000 years of peace on Earth. All Christians are revived to live on Earth for 1,000 years of no war (Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:3). It’s called the Millennial Kingdom or Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ.”

        Right and Bill Finck gives us the Papist preterist idea that the 1,000 years has already come and gone and Satan is out of the pit and doing his thing, though I will say, the nations are certainly very deceived right now so Finck’s idea doesn’t seem completely ridiculous.

        “This is beyond complicated. Calculating Daniel’s 70th weeks is all sorts of study. If you google image search ‘daniel’s 70th week’ and look at some charts, you’ll get an idea of what people are going for. But it’s something that almost no one agrees on in terms of the order of events. But basically Daniel’s 70th week refers to the events of the true end times of the world.”

        It seems to me Roger that scripture is saying this Antichrist you speak of is Satan himself. So you believe they will stage a fake alien invasion and Satan himself will return? From the various theories I’ve run into, the impression I get is that this Antichrist is a man.

  3. melgibstein says:

    William Wallaces sword, the Claymore.

    A claymore (/ˈkleɪmɔər/; from Scottish Gaelic claidheamh-mòr, “great sword”)[1] is the Scottish variant of the late medieval two-handed sword. It is characterised as having a cross hilt of forward-sloping quillons with quatrefoil terminations. It was in use from the 15th to 17th centuries.

    Anyone want to bet me a thousand shekels that this sword was pronounced with a “cah” instead of a “cla”?

    claidheamh-mór

    Kah lah- mor – kah relating to Michael and lah relating to law. Mor relating to great, big, “high”

    https://en.glosbe.com/gd/en/m%C3%B3r well well well even relating to Sarah?

    Wheres my “well well well” video?

    Even the Thor pagans have said nothing about war against the Jews and they know full well its the Jews, the people who dont believe the Bible at all and denigrate it every day do not ever hint of going to war against the jews and ridding them from us. Yes I agree some Feds have hinted at that in the past, but they did it to make the real people look like Feds (Jews), I am not a Jew or a Fed I am using common sense. Doing nothing is what the Jews and or Feds want, do nothing and you die on your knees. Most people even get on their knees to a Jew for 20 minutes on Sunday and dont realize they are on their knees to his enemies 24/7. We would never have had a country with free speech if it was not from the use of the sword and or bayonet originally a type of dagger “daga” (they claim of Celtic origin as well). I guess all those Celts (Israelites) who fought with the sword were clowns and knew far less than we did. They would call us the biggest wooses on earth.

  4. melgibstein says:

    oops I missed the Jew Oscars, Leonardo Di Cah prio (blackmailed whop) wanted to speak out for the “indigenous” people of the world (root of Indigenous is “genous”) which was never meant for Indians or Jews. Id like to ask him if Ashkenazi Jews are indigenous to the land of Judah and why they changed their names to another lineage altogether. They just throw words around like they are poll shooting and are never put in their places with words they use. The moron crawled around in the mud and moaned and groaned for 2 hours and got an Oscar, I thought the movie was absolutely awful and if anyone should get an Oscar in that movie it should have been Tom Hardy who actually did some semblance of acting, DiCaprio takes it up the backside no doubt in my mind.
    The indigenous people of the world are everyone but the people of Adam and Eve, me thinks Leo is into Satanism.

    All homos?

    I think this may be one of those magazines Trump will be going after. DiCaprio is a homo and Ive never been wrong on homos.

    http://www.theonion.com/article/jack-nicholson-leonardo-dicaprio-tom-hanks-denzel–28904

  5. melgibstein says:

    The big hullabaloo today it seems is David Duke voting for Donald Trump and the media is all over it, so who is David Duke supposed to vote for, a Cuban or a Black? Maybe they would prefer he voted for Kasich? That might work even better.
    I wonder who Frank Collin would vote for.

  6. Chris says:

    On a side note.

    “DiCaprio’s father was half German/half Italian George DiCaprio.”

    https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/post/140330838449/who-exactly-are-leonardo-dicaprios-two-mothers

    • melgibstein says:

      He aint no Hitler, more of a Shylock. I wonder what his Jewish step mothers name is, there is a Jew in there somewhere and Im betting its through the father and or his step mother. The entire Scorsese bunch are marranos in my opinion.

    • melgibstein says:

      Mad Max got a few awards, Mel Gibstone calls the director George Miller, Cecile B DeMiller ( a Jew). Mel and I are a lot alike, cept he’s a Jew and an impostor.

  7. Chris says:

    Someone ought to tech old Roger the real meaning of Adam and bastard.

    • Roy says:

      I grew up in the Calvary Chapel school of theological thought. I believeCC inferred that the Tower of Babel is when God did a magic trick and turned White people black and yellow. I vaguely remember watching a religious movie where they actually showed men turning different races……….no shit.

      Anyway……….I just blindly followed. BUT NOW………….I want an explanation. I want an explanation from guys like Roger. Tell me how this happened! Tell me how God magically turned White men into black men and yellow men. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!!! With just a snap of a finger? Like a cheap Parlor trick!

      I’m angry. I’m angry at men like Roger. I trusted men like Roger and wasted 20 years of my life. SPEAK UP ROGER!!!

      Roger — are you teaching others that God snapped His finger and turned White men into black and yellow men? Is this what you believe?

      • What was the name of that film “showed men turning different races”?

        It sounds hilarious.

      • Roger Martin says:

        Hey moron. Let me be very clear. You are not a Christian. You deny the power of God. You have ZERO understanding of God’s power. You will be thrown right into the Lake of Fire. Have no doubt of your fate.

        God created the heaven and earth. The waters. Light. Darkness. And did it in six days and rested on the seventh. God can raise EVERYONE from the dead in a single day. God can stop the sun and the moon from moving in the sky. God can flood the entire world with water. God has ALL power. You deny God’s power.

        You don’t believe he can create new races and languages? You deny that God, who CREATED the earth, can’t create 70 languages in a single moment? You deny that God who made Adam from the dust can’t confound the languages? What else do you deny of God?

        You apparently are more of an expert on God’s ability than God himself.

        “Roger — are you teaching others that God snapped His finger and turned White men into black and yellow men? Is this what you believe?”

        You believe that God can create heaven and earth? Can stop the sun in the sky? Can walk on water? Can make people immortal? Can become flesh and dwell amongst us?

        But………..he’s can’t make a new language?

        Hey stupid…..how did Adam learn to talk? He was GIVEN his ENTIRE LANGUAGE from his first moments breathing. He and Eve knew their entire language…….from day one. So Babel is not even the first time that God taught a human to speak a full language as an adult. You would know this if you were even a basic Christian. That Adam was born with language as an adult made in the image of Jesus Christ.

        Also in Jasher the angels show Joseph how to speak all languages in a single day. And at the Day of Pentecost the angels give people the power to speak in multiple languages in a single moment. Cloven tongues like as of fire in the book of Acts.

        I could go on and on. But the point is that God’s ability goes FAR beyond making new languages and giving people knowledge. Denying that God can make new languages an insult to God’s power. Are you really sure that you are a Christian?

      • @Roger Martin March 4, 2016 at 1:48 am

        “Hey moron. Let me be very clear. You are not a Christian.”

        You got that right. There are 45,000+ Christian denominations. Which one follows the truth of the Holy Scriptures?

        Roger, provide chapter and verse for “But people still had angel’s blood from Ham’s wife”?

        The Holy Scriptures are racist. They discriminate based upon race. They then discriminate based upon spirit.

      • Chris says:

        You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will visit upon you all your iniquities. Amos 3:2

        That says it right there but reading Gen 5:1 takes it beyond discussion. What next, saying I believe makes anyone an heir to the contract with God. It’s laughable and in direct violation of scripture.

  8. Roy says:

    Roger Martin…………….

    So that I understand you perfectly — You teach and believe that God can take a White man and turn him into a black man. Yes?

    Thank you for your time.

    • Roy says:

      I should be more clear……….of course God can turn a White man into a black man………….

      but the question is — Did He? Is this what you believe Roger. Do you believe that God turned White men into black and yellow men at the Tower of Babel?

      I personally do not deny that God has the power to do anything He wants. Of course God can change “language”. He did. The Scriptures are clear.

      The Question — Did God change White men into black and yellow men at the Tower of Babel? is this your belief Roger???

  9. ninjajohn13 says:

    Roger, in your infinite understanding of the Scriptures, could you please tell us who the beast of Revelation 13 is?

    • Roger Martin says:

      First off there are TWO distinct Beasts in the Bible. And both are mentioned in Revelation 13 (Revelation 13:11). So you’re already misunderstanding the Bible. Unless you’re going to claim that you know more about the Bible than I do, and that those two separate Beasts are somehow one Beast, and the Bible is somehow wrong? You honestly believe that Revelation 13 only has one Beast? Did you even read the chapter before you mouthed off in pure ignorance?

      Mel. Your readership is pathetic. Illiterate. Condescending and ridiculous. They talk a big game but have a weak understanding of even the bare basics of the Bible. How does one read Revelation 13 and come away with there being only one Beast? Throw around insults all you want and be extremely petty and demeaning. But look at how weak your character is. How can you insult me for claiming to know the Bible in depth but then you refuse to even read a chapter on your own before asking a question in a rude manner? Are you a man or a child?

      Am I to answer such complicated questions and waste my time on such an unlearned and sarcastic moron who shows such disrespect in his tone? I like this blog because the author of the blog does a lot of good research. But his readers are a shallow sort and many I refuse to accept are fellow Christians.

      If you want my understanding on any Bible issue then you can ask it like an adult would.

    • Roger Martin says:

      ninjajohn13 says:

      “Roger, in your infinite understanding of the Scriptures, could you please tell us who the beast of Revelation 13 is?”

      “I’m sorry, Roger. I forgot an “s” there. Are you going to answer the question or not?”

      Retard. You also forgot that ‘is’ is singular. ‘Are’ is plural. Idiot. Is that more liking to your tone? Am I fitting in with the readership of internet keyboard warriors? You don’t have an academic background, do you? Not educated? A loser? Social disgrace? A bit of a weakling faggot? A mental midget? Not being able to comprehend singular versus plural? Now I’m starting to act like the rest of the readership. I guess on this blog it is more acceptable to troll people than to act as an adult.

      You are honestly saying that you meant to type: “[C]ould you please tell us who the beasts of Revelation 13 is?”.

      “Who the beasts…..is?”. Huh? You are a liar. You absolutely did not read the chapter before you asked the question. You legitimately thought that there was only one beast. Your language betrays your reading comprehension and scriptural knowledge.

      You must be an idiot. This is the level of “white power nationalism” that you typically see amongst the monkeys and pedophiles at Stormfront. What’s your Stormfront username? Who is your favorite member of the KKK? What level Freemason was your father?

      I think it is actually easier to just laugh at your vulgarity and juvenile behavior than answer your questions. Learn to read first. Stop going to Stormfront.

      • Roger, provide chapter and verse for “But people still had angel’s blood from Ham’s wife”?

      • ninjajohn13 says:

        I thought you would respond like that. I will now ask it again, to your liking of course.

        Dear Roger,

        In your opinion, who, or what, are the Beast”S” described in Revelation Chapter 13?

        P.S. I already know that you don’t know because you’re a mamzer dipshit.

      • Roy says:

        Roger……………if you would please just confirm with us what we already know…….

        You — Roger Martin — believes God turned/changed White men into black and yellow men at the Tower of Babel. Is this your belief? And what is the specific verse that you cite for such a belief.

        Thank you.

  10. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Illiterate? Condescending? Ridiclous? Are we a drama queen? The only one being condescending is YOU, Roger, as well a childishly obstinate. Were you paying attention early on in Revelation, where Revelation says Revelation is symbolic? You might wanna look up “Lake of Fire” too. According to Dr. Wesley Swift, the lake of fire is Yahweh’s Shekinah glory and they already hiss, spit and and cry holocaust in it. Wield some at any of these WN blogs, and watch the lake of fire department respond to water it down, rationalize it and scroll it away.

    It’s a legitimate question: What is the beast? Is it a Bison? Everything in Revelation can be gathered from the OT prophets. Where is the beast in that? Could finance empower the media? Did that happen? Is it some faceless thing like that? Just a guess. I’d say it’s a child of the Rechabites, whatever it is.

  11. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Are you waiting for a barcode to be tattooed on your forehead and right hand, Roger?

  12. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Rechabite means Rider. Sometimes they translated it as Rechabite and sometimes as Rider. Dan throws the snake in the road, which turns the rider’s horse against him. Gen 49, concerning the tribe of Dan. That rider is the Rechabite. The scribes. The moocher: Will you give me a ride?

  13. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Here’s a little 2 + 2 : They’re riding US!

  14. melgibstein says:

    Ive got a question, why is it many of the popular CI Pastors (you know who they are) always use the word “Anglo Saxons” for Israel? Romans werent Anglos, the Phoenicians werent Anglos, the Greek Israelites werent Anglo’s, Iberians werent Anglos Russian whites arent Anglos may be descendants of the angels though- the good ones, everyone but Andre that is), I dont even think the word Anglo or Anglii which has the same prefix “Ank” like the word Ancyra or Ankara today (a Celtic city) had anything to do with the tribe of Judah or House. Ank is the root of the word “anchor” which means “bent” like in the Phoenix Constellation (lets just hope it isnt in reference to a nose). Germans always claim they are the tribe of Judah, but I dont see it. Maybe someone can help me out on this. We are told (by unreachable talk show hosts) Iceland is Benjamin, Russia is Tom, Ireland is Dick and France is Harry, but I think its all BS. I think all the Israelites were scattered abroad and to make the claim that the tribe of Judah (or House of Judah- which was 3 tribes) packed up and moved to germany is just lunacy to me. Can someone prove it, please? And dont say because Saxon means Isaac because that does not make them Judah.

    I have also heard many times that the word German means “authentic” in Latin, but if you look up what German means in Latin it says “brother” and Germanus means “sister”. Romans named Germany and spoke Latin and then the people living in Germany, many who were Celts there long before the word Anglo even existed eventually began calling themselves after the land they lived in. If they were Judah and they knew they were Judah, why didnt they call it Judah? Jutland is associated to Denmark or “Danmark” so that doesnt work either. The place was swarming with Celts, the same Celts who moved North, are they different people with different “DNA” because they moved North? It seems to me that a lot of us want to learn history only to a point where it makes them feel like the cream of the crop just like a Jew if you ask me.

    My point is, in my opinion this is Frank Collin hogwash and needs to be shunned as the BS it is. You are no greater than any other white man who is of Israel or you do not believe the book you claimed to have read and live by. You are a Jew and Judah between the ears is what you are.

    The Catholic church, who all the CI pastors who are German love to hate the Catholic church, but they are the ones who helped the Romans bring it to Britain and the North, they claim Jesus went to England or Britain and there were no Anglos even there then, the word didnt even exist. Do you mean to tell me that the tribe of Judah moved to Germany and then let the Jews back in again? Is there even a word about this anywhere? Where is the proof?

    Some CI pastors use the tune Braveheart, Wallace and the Scots were fighting “against” the Anglo Saxons “English” who had the blessings of the Catholic church over the Scots (who call themselves Scythians which we know to be Saka). I have even heard that these Scots (who came from Ireland and Iberia) were Germans (lunacy). The Pope needed Longshanks to do get his grips on Scotland and Ireland. I am not focusing on that specific CI pastor, it seems this German (and I dont hate Germans) complex is amongst all of these pastors (they agree on something). You either have the proof or you are a dreamer.

    When I first learned CI the pastors were all relating Germans to “Britain” until I came along that is because Britain was never German in those days and this is what British Israel is based on. Even after that however, the Frank Collin pastors still claim to be Judah, the master race among the race. Ach poo!

    • @melgibstein March 6, 2016 at 9:14 am

      “Ive got a question, why is it many of the popular CI Pastors (you know who they are) always use the word “Anglo Saxons” for Israel?”

      Man’s nationalism makes more money for them than the truth of the Holy Scriptures?

      Israel is prophesied to loose its identity in the Holy Scriptures.

  15. Roy says:

    “Iceland is Benjamin, Russia is Tom, Ireland is Dick and France is Harry, but I think its all BS. I think all the Israelites were scattered abroad”

    My sentiments as well. To make the emphatic statement that all of the US is Manasseh just makes us looks stupid. It is a ridiculous argument and I’m not sure why men insist upon it.

    • melgibstein says:

      Ive heard that too, but we would first have to dig into who discovered America and at that time there was no England and no Ireland, they had different names. I do however believe ALL the tribes were America and all of those tribes were in Britain at the time whether they be Scottish, Irish, English, Welsh, French etc (others came later and were welcomed in). Jews were never welcomed in, they came in under the radar and could have been kept out. Now the pastors are telling us we have the wheat and the tares all over again. I question everything I feel is of importance and having one people claim they are holier than another is just crap to me.

      • Roy says:

        A simple question — I’m of the family of Benjamin as an example. My daughter marries a son of Dan. Is she now considered part of the Dan tribe? Her children? My son goes off and marries an Adamite not of Israel. To what tribe do we prescribe him? His children?

        To suggest that Tribes remained intact beyond the 1500’s is beyond insanity. Shoot……by the third century I think they forgot who they were!

      • melgibstein says:

        Yes Roy, it would go through the male, so a female is somewhat irrelevant. If the male marries a white non Israelite it is an Israelite, but if a white male who isnt an Israelite marries an Israelite somehow doesnt make the grade (somehow). Exactly, how the hell could they keep this lineage if they didnt know who they were? They knew who they were early on and only then but thats my opinion.
        What I originally found interesting with the word Iberia was that it was “Iverskaya” in Russian and the Russian icon is called “Theotokos Iverskaya” it means “The Mother of the saviour of the Hebrews” not Israelites. If God made the Adamic people in his image he came for all of them, he just had to do it through the Israelites, they were his chosen “vessel” (people forget that word). A vessel or a ship, a container to be shipped by a messenger.

        Malachi Look up Malachi at Dictionary.com
        masc. proper name, Old Testament name of the last in order of the Twelve Prophets, from Hebrew Mal’akhi, literally “my messenger,” from mal’akh “messenger,” from Semitic base l-‘-k (compare Arabic la’aka “he sent”).

        It sounds like “mail” but it isnt the mail it is the messenger itself. Again I could be wrong.

        Youre not going to believe what “vessel” is in Hebrew “kel-e” again (keliy). What is a vessel? It is a messenger or angel of sorts (like Mi Cah el). I have a feeling all of the angel BS we have been told is another Jew smokescreen. That may sound ridiculous, but I find all kinds of truth realizing why we are taught a lot of crap. If it doesnt make sense there is a reason, follow it.

        Acts 915
        King James Bible
        But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

        The Gentiles arent the Israelites in this case or maybe Ive got it all wrong.

    • It terminates further inquiry into the Holy Scriptures and gives their sheep something to munch on.

  16. DC says:

    Yes, there’s a lot of BS flung around as you’d expect from a quasi movement run by mongrels and Jews pretending to be white, so you have to do a lot of reading between the lines to get to the truth.

    That being said, it’s not all bad either, you just have to be careful and double check everything.

    If you want to go deeper into Israel’s migrations and history, Bertrand Comparet’s work is probably the best for that. He did some excellent work in tracing Israel’s migrations.

  17. DC says:

    Isa_9:21 Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

    WWII?

    According to Comparet, God does have a wider plan for the nations which might give some groups more prestige than others at certain points in history.

    Like England, which was the first Christian nation (Comparet did a sermon on this) and led the world historically and America which has taken over and rules the world today.

    I believe that the era of colonial expansion seems to fit into God’s wider plan and I think is mentioned in that verse about expanding to all four corners of the earth?

    You are correct that the Anglo Saxons do not represent all of Israel, they are certainly a notable group. Some in CI believe that the Anglo Saxons were formally the Scythians.

    • melgibstein says:

      We can take words like Jute and claim it means Judah or names like Zebra and make it into Zebulon if we want, but you have to have the proof to back it up. A similar word sounding doesnt make it truth it has to be evident.

      This is why the ecclesia is of the utmost importance because it is coming from all perspectives as it was designed. Nowhere does it say the tribe of Judah will do this or do that in the future…….there is no more Jew or Gentile just the “kaleo” (and thats all 12 tribes, not one a hair above another). Jesus was of Judah (the House), but he was the son of God not a blood Judahite by heredity. They were his heredity as we all are. It is complete vanity to claim you are the royal class. Would it matter if we had someone of the tribe of Asher to lead us against the Jews or someone of Napthali (if there are indeed any)? I would gladly follow either.

      • ninjajohn13 says:

        Mel,

        Did you really just say that Jesus is not a blood Judahite? What is he then?

      • melgibstein says:

        Mel,

        Did you really just say that Jesus is not a blood Judahite? What is he then?
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        He is the Father of us all and we are his blood whether we are of Judah or of Napthali. We are his he isnt ours (blood and spirit I mean) in the sense that he gave it to us, we didnt give it to him. And Judah didnt give it to him.

  18. Ray Zerwitt says:

    A funny thing Dr Wesley Swift found was a prophecy of 8000 horses going blind on a battle field in a battle between Israel and Judah. 8000 horses of Germany went blind on a battlefield in WW 1. We know who they were fighting. I’ve looked for the details, that I can’t remember, but I must not have that sermon or Wednesday night bible study copied to MS word. Besides that, why do the jews hate the germans more than anyone else? Except that the imitator is so obviously bogus when juxtaposed against the original. Jews do not fit the prophecies, blessings and curses of the House of Israel or the House of Judah. No way, no how. They have no covenant with YHWH. If Germany is the house of Judah, they’re not the only Judahites. I’ve read that the Irish are too. It goes Abraham Isaac Jacob Joseph. Joseph got double the portion of all the other tribes combined. Small mention is made of Judah in Gen 49, comparably. The Zarah line was in Britain when Jeremiah brought Tia Tephi of the Pharez line to marry into the Zarah line of Judah. Then you have the Canaanite son of Judah claiming to be an heir. Like the Levites, the Rechabite riders are attached to every tribe too. They know where the blessings are and who to corrupt to make the tail become the head as in Deut 28:42. Ezekiel 31 too. Levi meaning ‘attached’, does that mae them the leviathan? Questions questions questions. Every one answered brings up 10 new ones. 30 fold 60 fold 100 fold?

    A big part of Israel’s portion is unimaginable chastisements to follow, and precede, unimaginable blessing. Jacob is getting some of that chastisement now. The scripture says neither the house of Judah nor the house of Israel know who they are.

  19. melgibstein says:

    first Ray, the Germans are no more hated than the Scots, Swedes, Icelanders, true Italians, Russians or anyone else there were just a lot more Germans and they were the enemy of the day, but to say the Germans are one tribe of Judah and the largest tribe of all is simply impossible to me, but if they are please let us see it. The Celts were all over Germany, Austria and Europe before there even was a Germany, I just want to see where this transformation began and who knew of it? It certainly wasnt Luther under the Jew Pope Medici. My opinion is the Germans were too nice to the Jews like the Palestinians in that regards and let them in knowing full well what would become of it and too damned nice to stop it (like we are now).
    Yes Ive heard the Irish are Judah too so I must be part of this royal lineage too, but how does this fit with our brothers who we need (every swinging one of them). We have German sellouts, Irish sellouts, Swedish sellouts, etc. when do we act as ONE? Would I have any more respect for a Judah sell out than a Zebulon warrior who fought to the death? I would not.

    That is also another part to this and what I mean exactly, the Levites were with both houses so can we prove that this Judahite lineage was still through the father? Then where are the Levites? Manasseh and Ephraim were both of Joseph (from the same seed), but Joseph was of the same seed of Jacob, Jacob to Issaac, Isaac to Abraham and Abraham all the way back to Adam. Why do we care if we are of Judah or Dan? Is one better than the other? Didnt Joseph save the Israelites? What if he didnt? Did Jesus care for Judah (the House or the tribe) better than all the other tribes? I just dont see it. I saw a lot of Benjaminites in the House of Judah doing the leg work, but in the end it is all of Israel that is saved and none above any other (every one is important) and I believe none of us are a direct seed of one (except of God and Adam), but there may be some out there, but I guarantee you they cant prove it. If you cant prove something you cant use it as truth. You can say its possible, but you cant say its truth. You can only know you are an Israelite. If anyone has proof show me and I will be the first to agree.

    To say Germany is Judah over and over again doesnt make it true and I will also dare to say the Irish or even part of the Irish were Judah doesnt make it true. I mean its fun to believe that not only are you an Israelite, but also of the same lineage that had God in the flesh through the womb (and the lineage of the prophets), but Mary was not the seed, God was the seed and he came for all 12 tribes over and over again.

    Another aspect, All the Israelites married non Israelites (I have no idea if Reuben even did) so they had different mothers and or wives constantly making different kinds of Judahites through the father. Was the seed of a Judahite who had Tamar as a great grandmother the same Judahite as a Judahite born with say a Greek Japhethite mother? We could go on and on as to who has the holiest bloodlines. This isnt based on our blood it is based on his blood.

    The scripture says neither the house of Judah nor the house of Israel know who they are.

    I believe that and I believe people want to believe what they want to believe and sometimes it is harmful to the truth because it isnt.

    Ive noticed some of these pastors luring in newbies and telling them they are the tribe of Judah, but hold their feet to the fire on it and they cant prove it so we are trying to bring in new people with “feel good” BS we cant even prove. It only harms us as a whole. We need everyone and we dont need a Judahite leader we already have one and he is the king of Israel not Judah.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      I don’t know if I’m an Israelite, so I’m sure not lording that over anybody. I think any true Israelite who acted like a jew would be in store for some severe humbling. Adam was husbandman, steward and governor, not slave whipper. The blood of Israel isn’t pure. The prophet said Yahweh will cleanse it. So, what is Israel’s function?

      • @Ray Zerwitt March 7, 2016 at 6:27 am

        “The blood of Israel isn’t pure. The prophet said Yahweh will cleanse it.”

        Where is the chapter and verse for that?

      • Ray Zerwitt says:

        Joel 3:21
        For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.

        And here’s one that applies
        Jer 31:27
        Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.

      • Joel 3:21 is talking about cleansing the blood of Judah? See Joel 3:20.

        “I don’t know if I’m an Israelite, so I’m sure not lording that over anybody.” Do any of us have proof? I would argue: No. No one can prove it.

        Paul addresses this:

        Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

        The real issue is: what is our Spiritual identity?

        John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

        Born of God not of blood. Many. Many Sons of God.

        Hebrews 2:10 For it became him, for whom [are] all things, and by whom [are] all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

        Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel:

        Spirit trumps flesh.

      • melgibstein says:

        Thanks from both of you for getting me to read Joel again. The “am” (my people) and “kah” is just all over it. America coincidentally has both in it and people always make fun of the “kah” part.
        There is no doubt that God has punished us with beasts, no doubt at all. He scattered the Israelites abroad so they had to be pure when he did it.

        Was Judah not mixed with the beast in Jerusalem during Christ’s time? No doubt. So all of the “pure” Judahites, Levites (who were still there then) and Benjaminites decided to move to Germany and the tribe of Benjamin said “I want to get as far away from them as possible” then hopped on a boat to Iceland?

        I am not questioning that Judah or the House of Israel mixed with beasts, they sure did (the beast himself). Why? Because they let the beasts in and they then convince the rest of us that we can never get the beasts out with the wheat and the tares parable which they dont seem to understand or want to that that “field” was one specific field and one specific harvest of many fields of the planet (not haaretz- the land).
        How many Jews are in Iceland? How can that place be applicable to the wheat and the tares? They are good examples of us reaping out the tares.
        You see there is a lot to talk about, but these pastors wont engage in ecclesiastical discussions they want to be Popes.

        I see where Ray is coming from and I see where STHS is coming from and this is healthy discussion which always always opens up a new and better understanding that coincides with the overall theme of the Bible for me.

        Its interesting how many different words they have for “cleanse” the first one is “chata” which means “purify” or “forgive”. The one in Joel in “naqah” which seems to be more associated with “to aquit” or “unpunish” their blood “dam” or “dawm” (Adam) and an excellent reason why every word in these books need to be studied one at a time.

        The only way to cleanse Adams blood is to get him away from the beasts. Thats my opinion however and we are into the final zone of Bible education there because our popular CI pastors would have us believe we are helpless and shouldnt even separate because God YHWH is going to do it for us. No he did it for some of us and maybe that is the lesson to us all.

      • Just wanted to add:

        Joshua 15:63 As for the Jebusites the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the children of Judah could not drive them out: but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Judah at Jerusalem unto this day.

        We know the Jebusites were of evil seed from Deuteronomy 7.

        How many jews in Iceland? Do a search on Dorrit Moussaieff. Also:

        http://forward.com/news/181557/icelands-handful-of-jews-keep-faith-alive/

        And that’s only the obvious ones. What about 1/4, 1/8, /16 and lower?

        Serpents are also sent among Israel.

        Deuteronomy 32:34 They shall be] burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

  20. DC says:

    I think bloodlines are only part of the picture, the rest is politics and the relationship between Israelite people and God is a complex one with many ups and downs over time. Tribes who are Adamic have fallen out of favor with God and been lowered in status, only to win back favor later on. So being an Israelite and one of God’s people can be somewhat of a fluid arrangement.

    I believe being related to this or that tribe is less important than our individual works and how we live our lives. Being Adamic qualifies one for consideration for God’s Kingdom. Being related by blood to Jacob/Israel is a prerequisite, but all who qualify must still face judgement and be deemed worthy (or not) to be part of God’s plans afterwards.

    It’s possible that many of so-called royal lines won’t make the cut either.

    • Roy says:

      The best comment I’ve read in months………maybe even years! You are a good man DC.

      • melgibstein says:

        Only my original question had nothing to do with Israel as a whole, it had to do with the Israelites scattered abroad and how they could have known what tribe they were. Where is the proof of it? I am supposing that the people of Judah left in droves and started Germany? Its just poppycock. Like I said there were Celts all over that land and they werent pushovers. Does the Bible say that the apostles went to any particular tribe?
        How could this tribe of Judah be the Saka that came out of the Celts be both the House of Israel and the House of Judah? One of the lines always used is that when the Israelites disappeared the Celts appeared, this is true, but Judah wasnt the House of Israel so when did they make this journey? When people say they are Judah they claim they are Judahites not Benjaminites because they are in duuuh Iceland right? When did that transformation happen and again where are the Levites (never mind they amalgamated into all of us I assume). Did we really keep track like that, why then is “Jacobsdottir” such a common name in Iceland? Because they dont place their emphasis on Benjamin they place their emphasis on Jacob (not Edom).

        Someone please straighten me up if I am wrong. We always hear that we need to use true history and true Bible history to get the truth so lets do it. I think some peoples egos are bigger than the truth but thats just my opinion.

        Am I supposed to believe that the tribe of Benjamin wanted to be separate from everyone else and chose Iceland to be that place? Be ye a separate people has nothing to do with being separate among ourselves. Its a Frank Collin BS routine unless someone can prove it to me. I will actually have people mad at me for this, but I am after the truth not stories.

      • @melgibstein March 7, 2016 at 7:55 am

        “Israelites scattered abroad and how they could have known what tribe they were. Where is the proof of it? ”
        There is no proof. Holy Scripture tells us most of Israel will forget who they are.

        “I am supposing that the people of Judah left in droves and started Germany? Its just poppycock.”

        It sells books, dvds and keeps the blind in the ditch.

        “Someone please straighten me up if I am wrong.”

        You are correct.

        “Am I supposed to believe that the tribe of Benjamin wanted to be separate from everyone else and chose Iceland to be that place?”

        What a joke.

        “I will actually have people mad at me for this, but I am after the truth not stories.”

        It will be a blessing to get rid of them.

      • DC says:

        “Israelites scattered abroad and how they could have known what tribe they were. Where is the proof of it? ”
        There is no proof. Holy Scripture tells us most of Israel will forget who they are.

        CI pastors undoubtedly exaggerate this topic to sell books and make money, but I don’t outright refute that there is some truth behind these assertions, not without further study anyway.

        Evidence of “Israel’s fingerprints” can be found, albeit a lot of it incomplete, given that tribes of people were frequently moving around without leaving a historic record.

        Referring to the passage in scripture I posted above:

        “Isa 9:21: Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.”

        Assuming I am not mistaken and the context for this is not far back in history, I would take this to refer to different Israelite bloodlines. If all tribes were thoroughly scattered beyond recognition, then why was this passage and others like it quoted in the Bible at all?

        Tribes of people tend to want to stick with their own kind, so while the tribes were undoubtedly scattered in various ways I would expect some groups of the same people to remain intact.

        The question is how do today’s tribes relate to those in the past?

        One possible clue (though far from perfect) is DNA maps of European countries.

        No country has a 100% homogeneous population, but each one has dominant genetics.

        Curiously I could not find a similar map of North America (coincidence?), but it would be interesting to compare the early migrations from Europe to America and then compare an American map to the European one and then see what scripture says.

        Although this may not answer the question this article may be of interest, the author of seems to believe there is a strong correlation between the “R1b” blood group and True Israel.

        http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/entry.php?174-R1b-DNA-is-Israelite-True-Israelite

        Mel, it may also be worth studying British Isaelism in addition to Comparet’s stuff if you wish to dig deeper into this topic. Although I hear it was run by a Jew and it’s analysis partly flawed, it was the foundation on which CI was built so there might be some good evidence there too.

  21. melgibstein says:

    Well I am sure glad we agree on a lot of things here because its hard enough not agreeing with everyone else out there day in and day out (Im sure you all know what I mean). You know who these pastors are that push these fairy tales and who also bring the truth movement to the BS shill movement or vice versa. Im for the truth and if I ever drift off of it I want to know, Im not hear to pontificate to the choir I am here to wake people up (all if I can), whether they believe everything I believe is not my objective, my objective is to hear all sides and study all the proof and put it to the test then move on to the next issue one issue at a time. I believe that the unity (uniting the clans) is where all the power is and I believe it is why this division has been created.

    Does it matter if you are in a back alley with a Josephite or a Benjaminite when you are targeted for a Black mugging? It only matters to me how well he fights unless of course he is a direct relative that I know and of course he will be more important to me (whether he is a Judahite or an Asherite) through the mother (God that sounds so Jewish)..

    • Roy says:

      I believe you are spot on Mel. Keep up the great work. I just listened to Andrew Carrington Hitchcock interview some guy going by “pastor Bob”.

      This guy said — “Mormons know God”.

      This is the kind of crap that drives me crazy. He says this because he is only looking at skin color. I love the White race………..but with most CI people, they worship their skin; and forget the mind/conscience/heart. White people can do no wrong.

      I got kicked out of Evangelical churches for denouncing the teaching of Eternal Security/OSAS.

      I also got kicked out of a few CI fellowships for denouncing the “All Israel will be Saved” teaching, which is no different from the Evangelical version of Eternal Security. No one cares about sin and obedience. Why I liked DCs’ comment.

      Great work Mel!

      • Not all white people are Israel.

        “I also got kicked out of a few CI fellowships for denouncing the “All Israel will be Saved” teaching.”

        What is that?

      • melgibstein says:

        You think thats bad (both of you) listen to David Dukes show today 3/7/2016, you better believe he is watching this site (and he should). Duke uses any kind of division to create more division. I truly believe he is against us and not Jews. None of these CI pastors will go after him and if they do its only about the Khazar issue. Why not attack Duke on the plethora of issues he claims about race, the Bible in general, DNA which he doesnt know from donuts. Id make him look like an utter fool in minutes. He is here to stunt the truth for the jews and why it took him 10 years to say a word about jews doing 9/11. Talk about opportunists, you are either of the truth or you are a sell out- period. Duke says we have the same blood as Gorillas and keeps repeating we were all created from one blood (he means Blacks, Jews, cows, everything), but he obviously never read the part about “mixing” our blood. David Dukes Bible is worse than the Talmud.

        If we are all saved why not join up with Albert Pike’s gang or the Jews, if we are going to be saved anyway. Thats what I mean, these contradictions are hypocrisy and we all know what hypocrisy is on this site, even David Duke. If there is an issue it needs to be discussed openly or we simply have another jew Pope.

      • @melgibstein says: March 7, 2016 at 1:51 pm

        Its difficult to listen to Duke. Why all the surgery?

      • DC says:

        “Its difficult to listen to Duke. Why all the surgery?”

        I think he was meaning Duke’s face lifts and plastic surgery, which is a no-brainer. It helps him get pussy. Duke will do anything for money or pussy.

        Duke’s an establishment sell out. Period.

      • Roy says:

        STHS —

        “All Israel will be Saved” teaching.”

        What is that?

        To be honest…..I rarely listen to CI teachers anymore. Although I did listen to Carrington’s interview with a Pastor Bob out of Nevada. However…..the most popular CI teacher and his followers teach, believe and practice that every White skinned person on the planet will see Eternity NO MATTER their actions (sin, disobedience etc.). I don’t think most CI people even read the New Testament. They completely ignore verses such as the “narrow gate” etc.

        They cite, “All Israel will be Saved” to back up their sinful condition. In fact…..if you listen closely, often times men will brag that they are sinners. Evangelicals do this all the time. The love admitting that they are sinners. It is like a badge of honor to admit being a sinner.

        I don’t listen to Finck anymore, so I can’t say for sure if he is still consistent with this message. But I do read comments in various forums and his ‘followers’ seem to think that their skin will save them; and ‘actions’ have nothing to do with Eternity.

        So to answer your question — “All Israel will be Saved” is the passage they use to justify their sin. Romans 11:26.

        Referring back to the CI teacher Pastor Bob, he recently said that he admired Mormons and said that Mormons “know God”. I believe he can say this because he has been brainwashed/deceived by the teaching that “If you are White, you are right”……..meaning that if you are White, you will be saved no matter your knowledge and no matter your actions.

      • @Roy March 8, 2016 at 10:11 am

        Thanks for the reply.

        “I rarely listen to CI teachers anymore.”
        AMEN

        I don’t listen to Finck anymore
        AMEN

        Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

        Is this referencing Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. ?

        Again I would link that to

        Romans 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

  22. melgibstein says:

    Why is he so surgical? Because he’s Dr Dog Doo and he likes to do surgical turds on us I guess.

    A picture I took while living in Egypt a while back. Ive been trying to find this picture to prove to some people that there are pyramids (or at least one) that was made brick by brick and the straw is weaved in between each layer. The amount of work this must have taken was incredible. There is no other pic of this pyramid on the internet, the pics of the pyramids are minute on the internet and you have to ask why.

    This guy with the Egyptian (Arab) I think was a Jew, he used to drive down to go on historical trips on the weekends he knew I was always doing. The guy was like number two in the company there and for some reason he wanted to be with me on these trips (I was probably his body guard). I was savvy to the Jews back then believe me, but if I could use the company vehicle to go to all of these sites I couldnt refuse. The truth is out of all the people I worked with there had zero interest in history of any kind whatsoever except maybe the Civil War.

  23. melgibstein says:

    DC, the House of Israel and the House of Judah separated there is no disputing that, but when you bring DNA into the subject please provide your scientific proof of this. What DNA did JC have, German? Dont fall into anything you cant prove because nothing on this planet can be trusted.

    Duke has surgery because he needs to appeal to the idiots out there as a leader when he is a ninkompoop. Why are white Christians buying his books when he claims white people are of Edom? He made that up. Like these CI pastors and Jew scientists, they make stuff up.

    Duke always claims that the media always refers to him as “ex clan leader” and Duke always claims he was not involved in any kind of violence, so wtf was his connection to Don Black and MLK’s assassins brother? What was his connection to attacking an island in the Caribbean? Lets open up that can o worms, shall we?

    Don Black uses Chertoff as the man after David Duke here

    https://www.stormfront.org/david_duke/persecution.html

    so where was Duke and Black on Chertoff right after 9/11? Nowhere to be found. Of course Blacks article has no date on it (how convenient?). War Duke gambling away his contributions or not? I think the Jews have Black and Duke in a jackpot. Duke loves Trump, but you can bet he doesnt like the fact that Trump was or still is a casino owner. I confess I have gambled when I was younger (walked away a winner too and never went back), but never with peoples money who entrusted me to use it honestly. Gambling isnt the point, gambling away your contributors money is. If I had a personal problem with Chertoff I would call him out until he croaked, but Duke is silent.
    Think about it, the patsy who was set up for shooting MLK had a brother who shot Don Black, David Dukes ex wife and kids now are Don Blacks. Bounce that around your heads for a minute or two. They are without a doubt here to keep us from doing anything and if we do do anything the Jew media will go to them for the interview. I have nothing to do with David Duke nor do I have anything to do with Sean Hannity, they are both traitors, but somehow these morons represent us.
    That needs to change!

  24. melgibstein says:

    One of the lines from Don Black in that article

    Sometimes we cannot win every battle in this war for our people’s freedom and survival.

    What battle? How can you call it a battle if you arent fighting? You see this is all twist speak, they use words that used to mean something and make those words into Jew mush.

    War? What kind of a war is he fighting? He isnt a Christian so he cant even claim he is fighting (kibbitzing) in a spiritual war. So wtf is this garble all about? He is pilpulizing- period.

    You see “war” is dropping bombs on the goyim and “war” is opening your pie hole and running back to your WPB shtetyl about the Jews. In this same article he uses the Civil War (which was a war war), maybe he should specify that word when he is talking about Jews each time, but by now we have been drilled with it for so long its now a given.

    Words have meanings and if they dont we are living in Jew Mitty land.

  25. melgibstein says:

    My apologies to Ray, “blood” is exactly what it is just like the blood of a grape. This is probably the same blood David Duke was created with.

    Duke will jump on this wagon again and claim to be a Biblical scholar on blood and genetics, but we have a problem still, we have beasts on 4 legs and beasts on 2 legs and another people who were pure and that can pertain to only one people and I dont mean Blacks.

    STHS I think you are right about blood not being the importance if I understand you correctly. Could you elaborate on that a bit?

    • @melgibstein March 8, 2016 at 11:55 am

      Blood is important but it does not override spirit. Although we do know that blood (seed/dna) matters from many places. Here are two:

      Israelites are defined as a subset of Adamic seed:

      Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

      Only Israelites (and those who became them) are known to God

      Amos 3:2
      You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

      But later we learn of Spirit:

      Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel:

      So if they are not all Israel, which are of Israel and we know that Israel is, in the flesh homogeneous then there must be a spiritual component.

      John 3:13 gives another key.

      John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.

      I.e. you are not going to heaven unless your origin and home is in heaven.

      Also:

      John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

      I.e. the true identity of those that worship God is Spiritual. But given all the conditions on blood they can use only certain kinds of bodies.

      Another clue

      John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

      There are so many verses proclaiming pre-existence. Spirit trumps matter.

      Does that make any sense/give food for thought? Give a specific chapter and verse if you want.

      • melgibstein says:

        I just knew it could not have anything to do with blood (after I looked it up that is) because of the very first time that word is used Gen. 4:10 speaking of Cains brothers blood crying out from the grave. I dont understand how Cain could have the same blood as Abel so it had to have had a different meaning somehow. I guess they could be brothers, but there seems to be no emphasis on different blood. He could have meant a different blood altogether. If this DNA thing has any legs when did this DNA split into so many branches?

        How does one not mix his blood if Adamic blood or Israelite blood is different and when did it become different?

        One of our CI pastors said he had the same DNA of an English king and Luke, do these DNA scientists also follow CI?

      • @melgibstein March 8, 2016 at 2:24 pm

        Regarding Cain and Able Genesis 3:15 discuss two different seeds. We know that Cain and Able had the same mother therefore they had to have different fathers in order for Genesis 3:15 to be true. No father can produce more than one kind of seed. Therefore they were half brothers.

        “If this DNA thing has any legs when did this DNA split into so many branches?”
        What do you mean?

        “How does one not mix his blood if Adamic blood or Israelite blood is different and when did it become different?”

        Genesis 5 gives the line from Adam to Noah. Luke 3 connects Jacob (later named Israel) to Noah. Israelite blood is a subset of Adamic blood but it is still regular blood. The real issue is the Spirit that inhabits the Israelite (and those of the proto-Israelite line) bodies.
        Back to Romans 9:6.

        “One of our CI pastors said he had the same DNA of an English king and Luke, do these DNA scientists also follow CI?”

        Who was that and when? I want to listen to that.

  26. DC says:

    Bertrand Comparet covers Israel’s migrations in the following sermon. He describes Israel’s migrations, based on both scripture and historical records. Migrations are covered in detail in the 2nd half of the audio.

    The impression I get is that the tribes did not necessarily go their separate ways, but stayed in the general vicinity of one another, but I have only had time to scratch the surface.

    I would need to do more research to find it (if any evidence exists at all) of what happened to individual tribes and it might take a while, however where scripture describes individual tribes, then it can probably be taken on faith that what is said in scripture is accurate even if there is little historical evidence to back it up.

    Mel, genetic maps may be bogus and should not be taken as “proof” of anything by themselves, but may offer clues as to the idenitity of today’s Europeans and I see no reason to doubt their validity.

    You say one of the CI pastors claims the the tribe of Benjamin moved to Iceland?

    I will admit this is a new one for me. Maybe the Benjaminites did make their way there? Judging by the genetic map, these people are not much different (genetically speaking) to the people living in Norway and Sweden, which suggests they have a common origin if not all being from the same tribe originally.

    Without knowing anything about the history of these countries, I would think it is quite possible that simply some of the Norwegian or Swedish people settled Iceland.

    Additionally, perhaps some of these “CI pastors” are also mixing up the “saving of all Israel” with God’s promise to Abraham to make his descendants a great nation and “father of a great many nations”.

    If I understand scripture correctly, the promise to Abraham is unconditional, while personal salvation is based on our individual works. I have read that contrary to popular interpretation by mainstream Churches, only a small part of Bible focuses on personal salvation, while the churches make a big deal of it.

    This is also contained in Comparet’s audio.

    “GOD’S PROMISES TO ABRAHAM WERE UNCONDITIONAL, GOD MUST FULFILL THEM OR BREAK HIS WORD, for he said “I will make of thee a great nation. . . Thou shalt be a father of many nations … And I will establish My covenant between Me and thee, and thy seed after thee in their generations, for an EVERLASTING COVENANT.. Thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies.” God did not say He would do this “IF” or “Perhaps” they were UNCONDITIONAL promises, and had nothing to do with obeying the law. They were repeated, UNCONDITIONALLY, to Isaac, in Genesis 26.

    They were repeated, UNCONDITIONAL promises to ISRAEL, to whom God also said: “Thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south; and in thee and thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee”. Genesis 28:13-15 and 35:11.”

    So Israel can be identified as the group of people who have fulfilled this prophecy, which is probably why a lot of people don’t take the Bible seriously any more, as they’ve been led to believe that the Jews are Israel which turns scripture to garbage.

    As Comparet describes it:

    The Bible is written to God’s people ISRAEL. The common misconception that “the Jews are all that remains of Israel” makes the Bible seem false to those who hold this mistaken view, just as if you took a good history of the United States, and wherever it said “United States” you wrote in its place “China”; as a history of China, it is clearly false, but applied to the right nation it is true.

  27. melgibstein says:

    I dont doubt that Israel was scattered abroad and I dont doubt some Judahites went to Ireland, Britain, Germany (before it was Germany), Rome, Iberia (both), Galatia (both of them too), Pontus, Greece, Troy etc. They were scattered. If Icelandic people are anything they are Danites because they were Vikings and Vikings were all over Scandinavia, Ireland, Britain and Iceland (so were Phoenicians coincidentally). Do we actually believe that these ships only took male members of Dan and women of other people? Its possible Dans name was used in places, but again if they didnt know who they were why did they honor Dan? Because he was one of the Israelites? It just doesnt make sense, did they know or didnt they? Was it the remnant that knew?

    The key to who the Israelites isnt DNA it is common sense, if we race mix we die and that pertains to no other people. Scattering them abroad may have also been part of the punishment and why we have no real idea what tribe we are and what would its importance be? There is no prophecy that I am aware of anyway that Jesus is coming again through any particular tribe of the Israelites so who cares what tribe we are of? Again, should we then go through the female to make sure we are of Rachel and or Leah as opposed to Bilhah etc? Where does it end? I’ll tell you where it begins, with Adam who blushed red in the face. All of them may not be Israelites, but all of them are our DNA from Adam (if there is DNA at all). If we have different DNA from him are we not from him too?

    • DC says:

      Well personally I don’t think if you’re from X or Y tribe matters that much on an individual level. Comparet mentions in the audio that God created the Israelites to be His “Battle Axe” to yield against His enemies on Earth, like how the Assyrian empire was gradually weakened by repeated attacks by Israelite tribes of the day.

      It is His battle and not for us to draw battle lines ourselves. Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that we should form anti-Jewish/Communist movements or partake in political activism, however it does say we should be “as wise as serpants and harmless as doves”.

      Mat_10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

      This current mess will all be sorted out in the end and it’s largely out of our control, so I take this verse to mean that we should be wise to the ways of the “serpents” of today (by studying scripture and politics, etc) and stay out of danger.

      Getting involved in political movements like the CI tards advocate will bring nothing but trouble.

  28. DC says:

    I was able to track down a Book that Comparet recommends in the audio. “The history of the Anglo-Saxons” by Sharon Turner. Volume I: https://archive.org/details/historyofanglosa01turn

  29. melgibstein says:

    The word “innocent” or some say “guileless” does not mean become a Jehovahs Witness tards. I wish Christians would bring that up when we are talking about Russia, Germany and even Muslim countries because if we can do it to Muslim countries and our own people and we cant do it to Jews……….something is severely and I do mean severely wrong with our thinking. Be ye a separate people comes first, if we cant be a separate people we are an invaded people who dont give a damn what Jesus or God said. We are in a spiritual war, indeed and our bodies (flesh) are the vessels of the spirit on this earth. If we dont believe we can defeat the Jews or even want to might as well bend over and kiss it goodbye. You have to back up what you say or Jews dont give a damn what you say. You know what they care about? They care about people doing to them what they have done to us- period. If they didnt think it was worth doing why did they even do it to us? That is why I believe we have controlled groups everywhere and if we have one saying what I am saying he is a Frank Collin, well Im not, I am a very very reasonable person who knows when its time to do something other than running my piehole and selling books. All the other “chosen” leaders are telling us to sit back and watch our countries dissolve in front of our eyes (they are our enemies). We need war in its truest sense, the most honorable and decent war there ever was…….a war against evil and evil doers and without doubt (no guile intent at all). If you dont believe they are evil doers and kill us then I guess we really dont know what we are talking about..

    Should I list the reasons why we should go to war on Jews? I guarantee you it will blow all the reasons we went to war with everyone else 20 fold combined. I guess Im Frank Collin for saying that, oh well. You know what, Ive been talking about Jews all over the planet for over two decades easy (more like 3), when I first spoke out I wanted to do something about it and how nobody ever does is as they used to say in the jew controlled USMC its a major malfunction.
    We want our Jim Fetzers, Gilad Atzmons, Miltie Kapners (7 fingers left) to keep us from doing something. Its pitiful to me. Id rather die trying than live in this sh**hole under their power. If there were 1000 people we could muster together, I would take over every media outlet in this country, state the reasons why on every tree and get people back in the spirit of fighting for truth, honor,family, country (Jews are against all these things) and all those things we used to fight for. I guess that was all BS.Not to me.

    To all who are against going to war on the Jews……..please dont use God (YHWH) for your reasons not to, he should be your reasons to. And dont talk about any military hero who fought valiantly for his country like Patton, Civil War people (like the Stormfronters do) etc. because you are all pacifists, remember? Pacifists are nor hot or cold and will be vomited out of his mouth.

  30. melgibstein says:

    @sths

    Regarding Cain and Able Genesis 3:15 discuss two different seeds. We know that Cain and Able had the same mother therefore they had to have different fathers in order for Genesis 3:15 to be true. No father can produce more than one kind of seed. Therefore they were half brothers.

    “If this DNA thing has any legs when did this DNA split into so many branches?”
    What do you mean?

    If Adam had the original DNA why doesnt his seed have the same? At what point does someones DNA or blood become holier than another or rather different? DNA is in the blood and if all blood is the same how can it be different?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “How does one not mix his blood if Adamic blood or Israelite blood is different and when did it become different?”

    Genesis 5 gives the line from Adam to Noah. Luke 3 connects Jacob (later named Israel) to Noah. Israelite blood is a subset of Adamic blood but it is still regular blood. The real issue is the Spirit that inhabits the Israelite (and those of the proto-Israelite line) bodies.
    Back to Romans 9:6.

    I know this, but when was it a subset? When did their DNA change and why? If DNA changes with different food we eat or different lands we live in when does it become from different blood? The whole thing is ridiculous to me, but we base our truths on something we cannot prove.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “One of our CI pastors said he had the same DNA of an English king and Luke, do these DNA scientists also follow CI?”

    Who was that and when? I want to listen to that.

    Good luck trying to find it, I even called him, Eli to question him on it on one of his blogtalk shows, coincidentally that very show some nutty Jew started calling in cursing and the show went by the wayside fast. Now he has discussions with other people with closed phones like everyone else in his network. I turned on his show with Hitchcock and he was talking about a new gloom and doom subject “solar flares”. This is all diversion and time consuming trash. If it isnt Fukishima its Nibiru, the New Madrid Fault, oh and Florida is going under water this year says the douche Green Beret on RBN. These people who bring this trash up are misleaders and acting outside of the Bible they claim to believe.

    I believe these guys have fake callers just like RBN who derail any real truth coming in.
    Just prove DNA to me, can you or anyone you know do this? If not it isnt true. They will tell you everyone comes from Noah too.

    Nothing is true I cant understand or I would be a liar. I hear these guys like Don Black say “it is true”, but he is sitting on his fat arse while talking out of it. I called him on it and he cannot prove it. He believes it because it fits into his evolutionary BS.

    Again, if Jews need DNA to prove who a Jew is how did they do it in the past? They didnt because they are mutts and always have been. They have the same DNA as a tadpole too.

    And something else, how do Jews have the same DNA being from different races like Ethiopian Jews, Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi (more Arabs) Jews, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews Im drawing a blank on the Arab Jews in the Jew state (starts with a D), Indian Jews, Chinese Jews, etc etc etc………they all have the Jew DNA right? Well why dont we see what the uncommon DNA is and we can come up with who is pure and who isnt. Simple.

    • Maybe I missed something but do some people believe in a magic/holy DNA?

      I said: “Israelite blood is a subset of Adamic blood but it is still regular blood”. I do not see anything in the Holy Scripture about DNA being changed.

      Romans 9:6 tells us it is the Spirit not the flesh that determines Identity.

      Fretting over DNA is not productive. Who owns the DNA testing labs?

  31. DC says:

    “If this DNA thing has any legs when did this DNA split into so many branches?” What do you mean?

    “If Adam had the original DNA why doesnt his seed have the same? At what point does someones DNA or blood become holier than another or rather different? DNA is in the blood and if all blood is the same how can it be different?”

    The way I see this, blood and DNA are only important because God wants to build His kingdom on the right foundation.
    Only people with relatively undiluted Adamic DNA have the qualities and character needed upon which to build and sustain an everlasting kingdom.

    Let just anyone in and sure enough your kingdom over time becomes corrupted and weakened and eventually destroyed as we know.

    Any “holiness” of DNA is political in that one Adamic DNA is only more “holy” than another because one is chosen by God while another of the same DNA never entered into the Covenant. I may be wrong about this, it would seem that non-Israelite white people may become Israelites by marriage to an Israelite provided they are of good white Adamic stock.

    Many Russian and Eastern European Slavs, are Japhethites, not Shemites and thus are white Adamic stock (or close to it), yet are not Israelites and thus have no relationship with God. Don’t think there’s anything “wrong” with their DNA, they just have no history with God nor the blessings.

    Let me clarify what I mean by what I said in my last post. I have no problem with fighting the Jews. I think it’s a great idea. I also understand your skepticism about what the CI morons are saying.

    If it comes to that, then count me in support of the idea, but timing is the thing. Go in guns blazing now, you’ll likely get zero support from todays Zombie patriotards in the alternative media, let alone the mainstream mostly leftist “wigger”s who’s asses you’re trying to save from ZOG.

    Go up against ZOG single handed and you’ll be squashed like a bug before the main battle even gets started. Will it achieve anything? No.

    Point is, an attack on the Jews would be great, but only if you could get enough support.

    Doesn’t seem likely right now, at least I’ve seen no evidence that anyone’s worried about the Jews at all. A wait and see approach might be better.

    No harm in keeping the powder dry just in case an opportunity presents itself though.

    It might be as I suspect that things have to get a lot worse before people start to wake up and the Americans of today are mostly fat and lazy slobs. Not exactly what you want in revolutionaries.

    Prophecy does seem to suggests that God will deal with things, but I’ve also read that only after people turn back to God before the end of the age Prophecy is reached will He act.

    When he does He will reap vengeance on the Jews and their heathen allies in the Gog Maggog war and that will be the end of them, and God will also use the Communist attack on America to pass (much needed) judgment on Israel too, which is how I think God will take care of things.

    Comparet thought an attack by Russia was eminent back in the 1960’s, but he was in error about the timing. It could still happen at any moment.

    It did also occur to me that Trump’s recent rise might be a turning point. This election is certainly different. There may even be a divine hidden hand at play in the rise of the Trump train, not to mention Hilary’s e-mail scandal blowing up at the worst possible time for her. I don’t rule it out.

    • thetruthwillout says:

      Another excellent piece,gets better with every thread.Interesting thing about Trump;his deceased brothers middle name was Christ,I believe it was his Mothers maiden name.His Family hails from the isle of Lewis,Scotland.
      I realise he may not be the answer,but he could be part of a much bigger plan….and the Christ killers are all coming out from under there Talmuds to denounce him,in massive numbers too.A tsunami of truth is coming,and the righteous will prevail as the jew dust clears!

      • melgibstein says:

        Your post didnt go straight through Truth, sometimes that happens. It does what it wants. Truth, that is exactly why I leaned a little toward Trump because I had no idea he had a Scottish mother and if someone was going to talk like Trump does and mean it I believe it would have to come from a Scotsman, now whether I am right about that is going to be in full view. No Scotsman in my opinion can let the rape of America continue (a true one) not the OReilly souper sellouts of the worst kind. In my opinion again, it isnt the Germans the Jews hate it has to be the Irish and Scots you know why? Because I am one and if I was president Id send them out of here with cotton up their arses on fire and have zero reservations about it because I kn ow its whats best. Everything else is give an inch they take a yard, business as usual, well I am for taking that inch and turning it into off my continent and I dont care what has to take place to make that happen. Talk about doing Gods work, that is it or my spirit is a liar (and I know it isnt). Will Trump get the ball rolling? No, I will get it rolling just to make sure.

      • DC says:

        “Your post didnt go straight through Truth, sometimes that happens. It does what it wants.”

        I figured out that your blog has a “two links” rule.

        If you have two links in your comment your blog then holds it in moderation or flags it as spam or something. Could be your spam plugin kicking in?

        “In my opinion again, it isnt the Germans the Jews hate it has to be the Irish and Scots”

        Well the Jews may certainly hate the Irish and Scots “more” than Germans, but I don’t know. The other day I was thinking about the Slavic whites, who the Jews still mass murdered in Russia and Ukraine, . It seems to me the Jews don’t discriminate in their hatred against those of Adamic stock or near Adamic, not just Western Europeans.

        On a related note, I was just reading Comparet’s work on Israel’s fingerprints and he believes that when the Assyrian empire collapsed, the Assyrians fled and settled in Russia, especially the Georgian area where Stalin is from. He thinks Russia today is lead by the survivors of the old Assyrian empire who were to a large degree Edomite kikes.

        What Trump has effectively done already according to my sources is to cause the GOP to implode. The party will be forced to reform itself in order to survive, regardless of whether or not Donald Trump wins or loses. They basically moves so far away from their traditional voter base that it had to happen. Trump is just the catalyst. The Banking Elites are in now panic mode because they don’t control this election.

        Whether it’s a stretch to say this is “hand of God at work” at play one can only speculate.

      • melgibstein says:

        DC, that old saying “keep your powder dry” was during a real war and we arent fighting a real war we are fighting a cow jumping over the moon fairy tale. That saying makes me sick, Jews have already committed the crimes we just wont admit it like mental retards in a state institution. They control our media, get it? They control our money, kapish? They are destroying our women……(dont see it?), they control our politicians (did you see these anuses kissing Jew arse in the debates last night?). The crimes are numerous and we are frightened to even expose them (and numerous more). Face it, that powder could be underwater and it would not matter. We have people like Glenn Beck brainwashing our children when the guy should have been hanging from a tree and forgotten years ago.

      • melgibstein says:

        I take that back Truth, the Florida Governors name was Crist not Christ. You have to ask why someone would want to take the name Christ though. Is he the messiah? His German grandmother was named Elizabeth Christ
        In 1901, sensing the end of the gold rush and fearing a crackdown on prostitution, Trump sold his investments and used the proceeds to return to Germany.[4] In 1902, Trump returned to Kallstadt to marry his old neighbor Elizabeth Christ (October 10, 1880 – June 6, 1966).[14][15] German authorities determined that Trump had emigrated from Germany to avoid his tax and military-service obligations, and he and his pregnant wife were consequently expelled from the country.[16] In May 1904, when he applied in New York for a U.S. passport to travel with his wife and his baby daughter Elizabeth, he listed his profession as “hotelkeeper.”[17] He returned to the United States and worked as a barber and restaurant manager in Woodhaven, Queens, where his sons Fred and John were born in 1905 and 1907, respectively.

        He says Israel has no better friend, the question is which one? What is this talk about fearing the crackdown on prostitution? Thats odd as hell.

      • DC says:

        Not entirely sure what you mean about the DNA thing?
        Is all of DNA science invented by Jews or do Jews just pervert and twist it like everything else?

        If the latter, then it can be un-twisted and possibly something useful.

        “We just wont admit it like mental retards in a state institution”

        Couldn’t agree with you more, but what’ll it take for people to face it and start dealing with their problem like adults? Civil war? Millions of dead? WWIII?

        This is why I feel that Lindstedt’s thinking is more grounded in reality than what many others are saying, certainly moreso than the WN utopia horse shit.

        When even the first 10 million white people are slaughtered I’m guessing people will be far more open to accepting a doctrine of CI racist dictatorship or whatever can restore order.

        Your blog will suddenly become a lot more popular.

      • melgibstein says:

        @DC, No idea where this will end up, but when this blog becomes popular I will be gone because if it gets popular I will be surrounded by the tards that havent been here for years and frankly it will be time to move on. Like a Clint Eastwood movie.

    • melgibstein says:

      Lets keep it simple DC, what I was referring to was that people say that God created one blood for us all, even Gorillas, Dr Dog Duke says so why do we have different DNA? Every person in the world I have ever heard talking about DNA cant prove it, every person I have heard talking about Solutreans cant prove how old they were, its all based on someone elses theory. Amazing how these same people never mention the Phoenicians. The one video on the American Stonehenge a guy quite educated in carbon dating said it is flawed. Naturally we have a people who dont want us to know true history, you could go back to 9/11, slavery in America, etc etc. We always have to understand we have sellouts who work for the Jews and Jews dont want us to know true history or science or they would be back in Auschwitz this time with no brothels.

      I am proving, and will prove that Hebrew came from the Phoenicians and the Phoenicians came from the Israelites. This is provable in language, DNA is based on a specific science by whom, Barry Scheck? Prove all things. When people say things they cant prove or the rely on someone elses proof they obviously forget about the most important factor in all history throughout history, “the jew factor”. That factor always has to be on the top of the list and nothing can be taken for granted even if a Professor from the finest jew schools in the world says it. Truth is people sell out and they sell out to the Jews.

      • melgibstein says:

        Florida had a Governor named Christ and he was a homo, maybe even a Jew. Jews will take any name, Ive known Jews named Gentile, a couple named Maranno, even Moron is a Jewish name which I am told is Hebrew. Havent met a Schmekel yet but I guarantee there is one out there.

      • DC says:

        To be honest I don’t have much of an opinion on DNA technology.

        I thought those DNA maps might be useful for figuring out the origin of the tribes are. I suppose it could be all BS. The maps seem reasonable to me on first inspection.

        Jews want to cover up our origin, but I believe there are still many sincere researchers out there who are unbiased.

        The Jews can’t suppress all of science as much as they want to.

        They may be working on flawed assumptions of phony theories, the question is what’s phony and what’s outright BS?

      • DC says:

        Just came across this, so I’ll leave it here…
        Why would the ancient Phoenicians be a threat to modern day Israel and Egypt?

      • melgibstein says:

        DNA is a Jewish con job. Tell me, who would call it a Jewish con job if it was? Bill OReilly? David Duke? His entire philosophy is based on DNA and Jewish hogwash. DNA is used in a jew courtroom to get jews off the hook. If there was truly a way to determine what a so called Jew is it would be easily proven that they are not Judah or Israelites. You see it is all like a Jew net the Jews and their shills throw on us. They will claim to be with us all the way and then make manifest that they never were with these fantasies they cant prove. When you use things you cant prove as truth like DNA or carbon dating you are an obvious FOOL! You dont take someone elses proof for truth or you get an Iraq war. We hear these CI pastors saying all the time “prove all things” and the second they step out of CI they cant prove a thing.
        Imagine me asking Dr Dog Doo if he can prove DNA, what would he say? Would he continue to lie knowing full well he has no proof? That is serious danger to us in any aspect because it is making truth into something that doesnt need to be proven, it has to pass no tests.
        Think that over a bit and then ask yourself why a supposed white leader is using it, someone who believes we are all of one blood and come from gorillas and Neanderthals. Just think of how Jewish nutjob looney that is. The guy doesnt belong in any area of leadership and he has closed phones to keep it that way (a total 3 ring circus). There is no difference of him from Frank Collin whatsoever, they will whisper sweet nothings in your ear and schmooze you right into the pit. Are you going to follow or lead?

        Don Black is another DNA guy, you see he was going to be a “phythithitht” he cant even say it, his tongue is on some Jews gonads. This guy is thee biggest nutjob loon that was ever associated with white people. These guys claim they were doing this when Trump was in diapers etc., every time an election comes around the focus is on these clowns who have wrecked everything we stand for, they want a white country so they can listen to Bach and Beethoven, give me a break! How about because God wants us to be separate? They are contrary to us. I would roll Black around in his own feces just talking to him on the phone for 15 minutes, but he nor Duke has no shame, they are there to derail any valid movement, they will never do anything to turn things around they do things to let out steam and then teach us not to do anything about it. Their answer is to get a radio show and close off the phones to anyone who disagrees with them (for the better of us all). They dont want to hear it because when you have an agenda you have to stick to it. My agenda is to get Jews out of positions of trust and then it is to live separate from them because their history is clear to a T that no one should live with them. They will never come to that conclusion so they obviously either have no clue of the destruction they cause and have caused for centuries or they are paid off shills or they are Jews. Either way it is obvious we have to get rid of Jews, that is a fact whether it seems to be Nazi’ish or whatever, it needs to be the goal.

        Dukes show today will be about one of his token Jews like Gilad Atzmon (who even disagrees with Duke on Khazars but wont say it). They’re retards running the asylum.

    • @DC March 9, 2016 at 12:08

      “Only people with relatively undiluted Adamic DNA have the qualities and character needed upon which to build and sustain an everlasting kingdom.”

      If that were true then Adam would not have partaken of the forbidden fruit. He had the purest Adamic DNA.

      Qualities and character needed to build and sustain an everlasting kingdom come from a mature Spirit. This is why the governments of men always fail and can NEVER work. We have been given the Law but our Spirit is not yet developed to implement it. There are still lessons for us to learn.

      Jesus discusses this:

      Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third [day] I shall be perfected

      • thetruthwillout says:

        Sorry Mel,
        I have a new device and it’s taken me a bit of time to figure it out,regarding Trump;should have read his Grandmothers maiden name was Christ,and I’m not for one moment suggesting Trump Grandparents are directly related to our Lord,but we all know who despises the name Christ.

      • DC says:

        I suspect that you are spot on here, but I would think that flesh, to a degree also determines what Spirit can be which is why flesh is an important building block, but only as a starting point.

    • DC says:

      @DC, No idea where this will end up, but when this blog becomes popular I will be gone because if it gets popular I will be surrounded by the tards that havent been here for years and frankly it will be time to move on. Like a Clint Eastwood movie.

      Can’t say I blame you.

      Point is, when the herd panics and realize they need you is the time to go up against ZOG, if hypothetically that was your goal.

      In the mean time, you’d be making a list. A Yuge! one as Trump would say.

      • melgibstein says:

        Ive got a list, my idea of heaven will be hunting these people down for eternity one by one. Only problem is I dont want to take up too much of Gods fun away.

  32. melgibstein says:

    Heres your DNA folks

    http://renegadetribune.com/the-jews-behind-23andme-and-family-tree-dna/

    Maybe Dr Dick MacDonald can explain this to us after he BS’d you for 3 or 4 decades on it. He wont skip a beat.

    I do not support this website, but from what I read it has nothing to do with the Renegade Bagel Boy network.

    Picture David Dukes mug in between these two flaming jewbers.

    They break jews into 3 sections:
    1. Ashkenazi- a Japhethite
    2. Sephardic- they want you to believe that is a Semite
    and 3 Mizrachi- a descendant of Ham

    Folks there you have it in a nutshell, Jews are all the people of Noah and the rest of us are Neanderthals….CI Pastors agree with this complete and total Jewish (there is no word for it yet).

    • I was waiting to see who would post that article. It is a good one.

      Renegade Tribune is part of the Renegade Bagel Boy network.
      Renegade Tribune has to put out some truth in order to get you to feast on the lies.

      • melgibstein says:

        The Renegade Boyz are Holocaust and Jesus deniers, they even have a hooked nose Irish pagan witch, all pals with the Stormfront crew and Anton LaVey. “If you’re going to be a sinner be the best sinner on the block”. They call her “Sinny”.

    • DC says:

      I read the article.

      Seems that the DNA company is in the data gathering business. Same game Google is in. Another scam to make a Jew buck.

      I’d probably not go near them and would not take there research too seriously, or any organization obviously run by Jews, but there maybe still other smaller legit researchers out there who don’t go along with the lies?

      I recall Steve Sailor promoting a book that seemed reasonable a year or two back.

      As for the source, one thing I learned from Queeny Cameron is that controlled opposition like to use Occultic symbolism to identify themselves while staying under the radar of the sheeple. The site has the black sun, also used by Andre Anglin, Alex Jones and others.

      To me that’s at least one red flag right away but I don’t doubt that the information itself is valid. They are most likely part of a network just like 99% of the others.

  33. melgibstein says:

    I just got that link, I didnt need it, I act on what I know no one can prove. The truth business means you have to prove things and why I study language. Its hard to do with all the BS going on in the world. You have to have your mind raight as they say in Cool Hand Juke.

    Andre Anglin, Alex Jones and others

    about as important to me as duck eggs.

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