The Master Blasphemer

Together we are one dumb twosome.

Together we are one dumb twosome.

If anyone wants to hear the Bible being blasphemed by a Judeo pastor (in my opinion a Jew) and a so called white leader (in my opinion another Jew) you need to listen to this broadcast. Every Judeo lie in the Jew bag of lies is involved in this one recording. If you don’t have a clue what I am talking about just ask me, but for you CI pastors out there pushing David Duke and one step away from Dankof you ought to be ashamed, unfortunately I don’t think they have any shame folks.

If that link doesn’t work go here

http://www.renseradioarchives.com/dduke/

Date: 09-22-15 Duke and Dumkof

This thread could easily have been named “Dumb and Dumber” but I think they are Jews. How on earth any CI pastor can let these idiots blaspheme our Bible and without being challenged is proof that our CI pastors are on the take. How can you possibly endorse these people on your websites knowing what they are doing? What their plan seems to be is to try to take their false teachings so far into the cartoon world that they will never have to face reality. In other words they are panicking because they know that the book has to be inspected in its entirety to get to the truth. They want no part of that occurring because everything they have ever said will have been for naught and they go back to square one. They cant or wont do it folks, so they blackball and will right up till they meet their maker. They’re toast folks, Jews or not Jews……that isnt the question anymore. They want you to be pro white because of Bach and Beethoven and Nitschke, what a joke!

Duke claims that Gilad Atzmon said that Duke knows Jews better than Jews know Jews and Duke doesn’t know that he is being taken for a ride. He has studied Jews all his life he says and he still has no clue what a Jew is. How is it possible folks? Should we tell him he wasted his entire life? I will.

It is one thing to unknowingly interpret the Bible, but entirely another to deliberately pervert it knowingly. If you cannot tell that this is deliberate than you are nowhere near any kind of a truth movement. If these morons aren’t saying “It isn’t all Jews”, “It isn’t all Jews”, “It isn’t all Jews” they are blaspheming the Bible in our faces. If these people were on a battlefield they would simply be in the way and nothing but stompers of motivation. They are simply in the way and exactly what they are being used for.

Anyone that endorses these people are endorsing Jews knowingly or not. The truth is either of these two would be steamrolled in a debate but not one CI Pastor is calling for that challenge. They don’t want to challenge so what good are they? If you have the truth use it or get lost. If you have the truth let’s get it on and if you are a woos keep running like a woos, but I’m takin names.

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108 Responses to The Master Blasphemer

  1. Roger Martin says:

    “They’re toast folks, Jews or not Jews……that isnt the question anymore. They want you to be pro white because of Bach and Beethoven and Nitschke, what a joke!”

    Most of the anti-Jewish movement has nothing to do with Christianity or The Bible. In fact most of the top anti-Jewish leaders are FBI/CIA/Cointelpro/AlexJones/Synagogue of Satan infiltrators. You have “Neo Nazi” leaders that instead of teaching Holocaust Denial they’ll advocate doing “another Holocaust” as if the first one happened. Or you have Holocaust Deniers like David Cole (an ADL plant and a Khazar himself) or David Irving (known homosexual pedophile) leading the cause. You look at most of the prominent Holocaust Deniers and they openly mock Jesus Christ. They’ll burn in Hell alongside the Jews that they claim to have “figured out” and beaten. Pathetic.

    Unfortunately retards like David Duke think that the God of the Bible is some merciful meek being and that Jews are the most hardcore “racists” or “warmongers” in existence. But God’s Wrath and then Eternal Hell will be beyond anything that even the most depraved man or even the devil can perform. The Bible is the book of ultimate genocide…God will literally eradicate all non-believers and put them in Eternal Hell. Who can top that? No one has more wrath and fury than God.

    Atheism is my favorite Jewish word. These morons call themselves “atheists”. “Hey man…..I’m an atheist…I don’t believe in anything?”. Yet they believe in Global Warming, the Holocaust, Evolution, the Big Bang, and so on. Want a good test to find out if your local pastor is an idiot? Ask him about the Holocaust and see what he says.

    • melgibstein says:

      They have to keep Jesus a Jew and praise Atzmon and Bro Nathanael or they will have no reason to stick up for Jews. They stick up for Jews with all that is going on today here and all over the world. They might as well be devils themselves.

    • Roy says:

      Roger Martin……………where did you go? There is a question on the table for you —

      Do you believe all the races originate with Adam and Eve?

  2. Concept of Christian hell is not in the Holy Scriptures.

    Any “movement leaders” you recommend?

    • melgibstein says:

      Jews have their leaders set in place even in organizations they dont need to be in place. Just in case some of those people wake up Jews have to be there, but one thing I know for sure is this Stormfront crowd is with the Jews 100% and that includes the Stormfront CI pastors. Do I recommend anyone? No, not individually, but I do recommend a group of people who are all for free speech and allow wide open comments. Thats all I can trust.

    • melgibstein says:

      Which is why I dont have a radio show, I dont know one radio host that wants to hear when they are wrong, they might as well be looking in the mirror talking to themselves. Then you pick your jew bumper music…..non my cup of tea unless I could change it entirely.

      • Mel, most of the time I can follow your train of thought. But explain to me how

        “Which is why I dont have a radio show”

        follows on from

        Who has free speech and wide open comments?

        I am assuming that if you had a broadcast then you would have open lines and comments?

        Sorry if I missed something obvious here.

    • Roger Martin says:

      Biblical Hell is real. You’d be a fool not to acknowledge it. The only thing saving you from it is believing. Looks like you’re not saved. But continue to be such an expert…..in your own mind. If you are such an “expert” (laugh) then refute The KJV’s repeated mentions of Eternal Torment and Hell.

      Jude 1:7
      Mark 9:43
      Matthew 12:40
      Matthew 13:50
      Matthew 25:46
      Revelation 19:20
      Revelation 21:8

      • Roger,
        tell me about what “saved” means? Specifically in terms of Holy Scripture?

        Do you believe an African or a Chinese can be saved?

      • Roger Martin says:

        “Do you believe an African or a Chinese can be saved?”

        You’d be a fool to deny that an African can be saved. You think the Ethiopian Eunuch from Acts 8 wasn’t saved? He was black, African….and a eunuch, who had butchered his own manhood. But he was saved and baptized. The idea that the Ethiopian Eunuch was white is beyond ridiculous. If you’re uncomfortable with people you dislike being in Heaven then that’s simply too bad.

        The thief on the cross lived an immoral life until his final minutes but Jesus still chose to save him because he believed. People he stole from who died denying Christ will end in Hell. The Bible is extremely clear. People who live “good” lives or think that they are predetermined to go to Heaven will have Christ literally turn his back on them at Heaven’s gates.

        Do I think someone with Chinese ancestry can be saved? Of course. But in China one of their main symbols is literally a dragon. So we know what the main religion is in China and has been for thousands of years. Will heaven probably have mostly white people in it? Yes if history is a strong indicator. But God LOVES His version of diversity. He created EVERY different species of animal and all varieties. And God commanded the races to be separate with separate languages and cultures after the Flood. But nowhere in The Bible does it say that when God separated men all over the earth that was he dooming certain races to never being saved.

        You can argue that race mixing is a sin. I find race mixing disgusting. But Christ’s blood washes away that sin. Like it or not. And being born Chinese or Black is not a sin. There is no concept or Original Sin in The Bible unless you’re making things up like the Catholics do with their infant baby baptisms.

      • “You can argue that race mixing is a sin. I find race mixing disgusting. But Christ’s blood washes away that sin.”

        Never mind arguing: what do the Holy Scriptures say about race mixing?

        “Christ’s blood washes away that sin”

        Chapter and verse?

        Regarding the Ethiopian Eunuch. Where does it say he was Black?
        Does a white/Adamic man living in the Congo change color?

      • Where is hell mentioned in Revelation 19:20, 21:8?

      • Roger Martin says:

        “Study the Holy Scriptures” you are almost certainly not saved. I can tell from how little you understand The Bible. Let me be very clear. Hell is real. Hell is Eternal. God rules over Hell.

        The Lake of Fire is the final destination for Hell. When God has judged the nonbelievers in front of the Great White Throne he will cast out both humans and angels that are nonbelievers into the Lake of Fire for the rest of time. The believers will live in God’s presence in Heaven for all eternity.

        There are MANY Bible verses that don’t mention Hell. From verses that deal with how to run an earthly society to verses that deal with history or the Flood or verses that deal with how to raise children or handle your marriage. You could quote thousands of verses that don’t mention Hell and pretend “HAh! That verse doesn’t mention Hell! There’s no Hell”. But there are enough verses that mention Hell and Death to fear them.

        Where does knowledge begin? With the FEAR of God. You seem to pretend that you know more about The Bible than even God. “There’s no Hell”. Okay. Tell that to God when you get there.

      • Why not answer the question?

        Where is hell mentioned in Revelation 19:20, 21:8?

      • Roy says:

        Roger —

        Do all the Races come from Adam and Eve?

  3. melgibstein says:

    1. Jews were in bondage in Egypt- wrong
    2. God said the House of Judah and Israel were cast away forever- wrong
    3. Jews are Judah- wrong
    4. Israel means 7 different things- wrong
    5. Jews are Judah and a race- wrong
    6. Gentile means non Jew- wrong
    7. Jesus was a liberal- wrong
    8. Jesus came for everyone- wrong
    9. The Old Testament had a Jewish God- wrong
    10. Moses was a Jew- wrong
    11. Jesus kicked the Jews out of the Jewish temple- wrong
    12, Jesus whipped the Jews with a “cat of nine tails”- wrong

    A cat o’nine tails is a whip with nine knotted lashes. Its origin is believed to date back to ancient Egypt, where the domestic cat was sacred and, even then, was said to have nine lives. The Egyptians believed that when beaten with cat hide, the victim gained virtue from the whip.

    He wasnt trying to give them virtue.

    And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

    My Father’s House- amazing how they always leave that one out.

    “David Dukes contribution money”
    I dont even want to listen to all the deliberate lies again to get to 13 , but I guarantee you I could find 10 more lies from each idiot on that tape.

    The Jews house or temple is a bank and why many of them look like temples- that is their holy place.

  4. melgibstein says:

    A picture of David Duke when I tell him he kicked the Jews out of his fathers house

    They call Dankof “Pastor” but he still doesnt know what “father” even means. You can bet with Dankof that words arent what they were meant to be.

    “Nooooo” “NoooooOOO” “NoooOOO NOOOOooo NooooOOO Look aaat his faaaace”

    First whigger I ever saw (a Jew) was calling everyone “bro” like the chimps, this was not by accident, words are deliberately set for destruction.

    Bottom line is if someone was claiming I was wrong about something they can challenge it right here….or elsewhere, but they cant and they wont.

  5. Pennydreadul says:

    Truthfromgod.com Dewey H Tucker

  6. Ray Zerwitt says:

    The internet is the false prophet of the last days.

    So, Rebbe Dankof and Rebbe Duke are analyzing Yahweh’s mistakes. Like jews, they have the cart before the horse and want to keep it that way. The one constant of this internet is the Yahweh bashing.

    The great apostasy. Could there be a better example of ho lost people get without Yahweh, than this internet? Now, they’re waiting for an asteroid to hit the flat earth. That’s the big titillating sensation the baal priests have put out there for their amusement.

    They look in the mirror and immediately forge what they look like. They’re flighty, undependable, untrustworthy, unreliable, uncommitted, and uninspired. These chronic callus-assed couch potatoes are going to save the world, huh… in their ivory tower fantasy lives, which is the only lives they have. Never trust a pussy.

    I’ll thank Yahweh for my hard life, right now. Only the truth works for me, in my career. It’s a PRACTICE! Every lie bites me in the ass. It’s wholesale insanity out there. It’s hard not to become part of the wash.

    You’re a rare one, Mel.

  7. melgibstein says:

    Ray or anyone else on here, please explain this verse, interested how each one of you interpret it.

    1 Thessalonians 2:15 KJV

    For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

    Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

    This is the premier verse all Judeo’s use against CI or Israelitism. It is true, there is no such thing as Christianity because Christianity just represents all people who decide they “believe” and nowhere does it say for all people. Some use the words “all nations” as like “Nigeria” or “China” or “Kathmandu” etc. as if people could remain separate by being together. These so called countries were only countries because we said so
    Wiki
    The name China is recorded in English from the mid 16th century. It is of uncertain origin, but likely derived from Middle Persian and ultimately Sanskrit, perhaps after the Qin dynasty. In Chinese, common names for China include Zhongguo (中國/中国) and Zhonghua (中華/中华), while Han (漢/汉) and Tang (唐) are common names given for the Chinese ethnicity. Other names include Huaxia (華夏/华夏), Shenzhou (神州) and Jiuzhou (九州). The People’s Republic of China (Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó) and Republic of China (Zhōnghuá Mínguó) are the official names for the two contemporary sovereign states currently claiming sovereignty over the traditional area of China. “Mainland China” is used to refer to areas under the jurisdiction by the PRC usually excluding Hong Kong and Macau.

    There are also names for China based on a certain ethnic group other than Han; examples include “Cathay” based on the Khitan and “Tabgach” based on the Tuoba.

    Blacks didnt name Nigeria or Africa.

    India- dia-God- not a dothead God.

    Why in the world would we call mixed people an ethnicity? Hold on Im going to Guanzu to start a new ethnicity.

    • Roger Martin says:

      “Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men”.

      Prophets and angels in The Bible are messengers of God’s word and salvation. I know that people get caught up in “prophets” meaning people who can perfectly predict the future. Or angels being flying heavenly creatures with wings. But The Bible has definitions outside of those standard usages. The term “evangelist” comes from the word “angel”. It means someone who brings the good word of God. Prophet is simply someone who was teaching people about God. The Bible is saying, in my opinion, that the they killed their own converts who tried to create more converts and have now doomed their own people into creating generations of non-believers. Of course these same people said “let his blood be on us and our children” so they love to curse themselves. Christ deniers never just do it in silence. They kill believers just as they kill Christ.

      But not all antichrists are Khazars or even dues paying members of the Synagogue of Satan. Most are just ignorant of the Truth. And because they refuse to accept The Bible they are filled with all sorts of rage or self importance. Take every single “scientist” that goes on television and talks about Evolution or The Big Bang. They have no proof. But their egos are so huge because they think that they are the MOST important thing alive and not the God that created them. So they spend their lives promoting God denying “science” without even knowing that they are nothing more than satanic pawns. Satan doesn’t care. He doesn’t need to be praised openly. He’s a liar and enjoys fools spreading lies and creating more nonbelievers.

      But back to The Bible The Old Testament prophets and preachers knew that eventually there would be a Christ. They had their own Revelation. This idea of the Old and New Testament having two different plans of Salvation is moronic and not at all Biblical. Christ is referred to in the Old Testament many times. God knew he would come. Just like Old Testament people look forward through time for the eventual Christ, we as New Testament governed individuals are looking backwards through time at the transpired Christ’s life, death, and resurrection. But everyone has the same Salvation plan. And people in the Old Testament were killed for talking about the Christ that would come (Acts 7:52).

      I think part of the reason why Christ was always sticking close to the Talmudic heretics was because he wanted to show His followers the face of true evil. You can’t have good without evil. So he named the Synagogue of Satan and proved that some people are beyond saving and need to be fought instead of converted.

      The worship of Moloch, Satan, is still going on from Old Testament times. Old Testament preachers who talked about the coming of a messiah were killed so that people could continue throwing their children into fire. And there are still people today who deny God and Christ and instead want to work as “abortion advocates”. Where at these abortion facilities they throw babies into fire. I wonder where they learned that practice…….

      Some cultures rejected God the minute Christ came back to life. The Africans still wanted to worship the Sun and the Moon. The Chinese wanted to worship the Dragon. The Japanese wanted to worship their Emperor. Ancient Romans and Greeks wanted their many gods. Ancient Germans and Nordics wanted their pagan statues and ceremonies. And Americans worship the Dollar. We aren’t killing our prophets anymore. But no one in American is listening either. Americans, white Americans included, want the NFL on Sunday….not Christ. This generation of ADD riddled, openly homosexual, abortion having, and alcoholic pothead white America will probably have its majority never step foot in a Church once.

      NARROW is the path to salvation. Most young white people are openly against Christianity and God in America. They sit home and watch Jon “Stewart” Leibowitz, Bill Maher, and Howard Stern, and don’t care about the God that created them and even gave them life. You think they get to go to Heaven because they are white? Nowhere in The Bible are people rewarded Heaven automatically.

    • EDOMS THORN says:

      In I Thessalonians 2:15 I see the difference between “JEW” and ISRAEL being made! EDOM = JEW
      ISRAEL = Christian

      Please follow along with my TRAIL…

      Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. Isaiah 65:

      Paul said the JEWS (EDOM) killed the Messiah.

      I Thessalonians 2:14-15 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men”:

      PETER said it too! Acts 4:9-12 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

      Acts 5:29-31 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

      THE JEWS ARE NOT OF THE TWELVE except the betrayer “Judas”, Paul also said he was NOT a “JEW”…

      Acts 26:4-7 My manner of life from my youth, which was at the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem, know all the Jews; Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God, unto our fathers: Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope’s sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.

      History proves and the Apostle Paul agrees, the EDOMITE JEWS are Hated and Contrary to ALL of “WE” the GOYIM!

      I Thessalonians 2:14-15 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men”:
      SEE? …” for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:”… PAUL was an “ISRAELITE” the JEWS were not.

      Isaiah 7:14-16 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
      (EDOM was in control of ‘Judea’ in Messiahs day) The installation of Herod the Great (an Idumean) as king in 37 BC made Israel a Roman client state and marked the end of the Hasmonean dynasty. In AD 6, Rome joined Judea proper, Samaria and Idumea (biblical Edom) into the Roman province of Iudaea. In AD 44, Rome installed the rule of a Roman procurator side by side with the rule of the Herodian kings (specifically Agrippa I 41–44 and Agrippa II 50–100).

      The MESSIAH pointed to EDOM in Revelation 3:9

      Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”…
      Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Jacob? YES, WE are Jacob/ISRAEL, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews/ISRAEL?

      The Messiah KNEW they were of EDOM…

      Matthew 23:31-33 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”…

      S.C. 1081 GREEK ‘gennema’ is Greek for ‘generation’
      1) that which has been born or begotten
      a) the offspring or progeny of men or animals.

      And there again the “OFFSPRING” …

      Matthew 23:34-36 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation”…

      Paul KNEW.
      Romans 9:6-7 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
      Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated”…

      Just as “synagogues” are not sanctioned by GOD. the state of ISRAEL as we see it today was not.

      Psalm 102:16 When the Lord shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory.

      Isaiah 52:8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion.

      Ezekiel 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

      BIG FACTS HERE!

      The entire Bible is to and for ISRAEL, not JEWS!

      The word “ISRAEL” occurs 2568 times in 2294 verses in the KJV, and not one time is ISRAEL called “JEW” The Book of Romans is largely about Gods love for ISRAEL/Jacob and the word “JEW” is used there ten times and not one time is it used for ISRAEL. WHY NOT?
      NEVER in the entire Bible are the so called JEWS called “Gods Chosen”
      The word “JEW” in scripture, NO WHERE denote “FAITH or Religion.
      “JEW” means Judean and is used for one son of Jacob/ISRAEL JUDAH.

      1 Chronicles 16:13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.

      Psalm 135:4 For the Lord hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

      Isaiah 41:8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

      Isaiah 44:1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:

      Isaiah 45:4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

      AND the “elect” are ISRAEL! Not JEWS!

      • EDOMS THORN says:

        This goes with Revelation 3:9

        Isaiah 60:14 …”The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet”… = THAT IS EDOM at ISRAELS feet!! EDOM is and have been OUR enemy and Gods enemy, and tool that HE has allowed, and used to aide in bring Satan and his rebillion to an end. One major “BLASPHEMY” is that EDOM claims to be Gods Chosen, and EDOMS behavior in the world has turned MANY away from the God OF ABRAHAM! I would want nothing to do with EDOMS gOD if they were “Gods Chosen”.

      • melgibstein says:

        Great verses Edom or maybe I should call you Adam. Cant say I disagree with any of it.

  8. Ray Zerwitt says:

    I see a contradiction in THE Lord Jesus and THEIR own prophets. Shouldn’t it say “their own lord Jesus” too? I suspect some scribe hanky panky there.

    The “BECAME followers….” suggests they were getting brainwashed in the synagogues before, and ditched the jew’s program in droves after hearing some refreshing truth. Which brings us back to Dookie and Dummkopf; what man wants to be such a fickle sower of the wind? Except them, of course. Baal priests get to eat your children, when they get you fooled. Subtle hypocrites, aren’t they.

    Shebna might shed some more light on it. Always seen walking arm in arm with the chief priest.
    “Shebna, WTF are you doing in this temple”. I forget the book(s). Kings and maybe Isaiah or Ezekiel. The 5th column goes way back.

  9. melgibstein says:

    Roger, STS what is your take on that verse?

    I agree Ray,

    I believe at some point you have to call the traitorous proselytes and the Jews the same thing just as you would the people that make up our own government officials, media etc today. In Esdras 2 it also says that Jews killed their own prophets and referring to the House of Judah at the time………..what would these sold out proselytes in power do to a prophet today for the Jews? They would take great joy in torturing him to death.

    The Judeos use this as proof that Jews are Judah, but they have obviously never read through the books.

    I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

    The Jews obviously called themselves Judah and that same dilemma was going on then as it is today.

    I know this is only one verse in thousands that Judeos can use but I would like to hear all perspectives on it. Something you could never see or hear on a David Duke forum………what they say is final and no further investigation is ever required.

    • “and their own prophets”

      Is your issue with this phrase that it appears to legitimize the Jews claim to be Israelites?

      Lets start with

      1 Thessalonians 2:14-15
      For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

      This tells us that:

      Pauls bretheren became followers of the ekklesia in Thessalonia.
      In Judaea the ekklesia are in Christ Jesus.
      Pauls bretheren in Thessalonia suffered like things by Thessalonians that
      the ekklesia in Judaea suffered by Judaeans.

      The Judaeans:

      killed the Lord Jesus,
      and their own prophets,
      persecuted Paul and his bretheren,
      pleased not God,
      are contrary to all men.

      Judaeans (Ioudaios G2453, translated “the Jews” in verse 14) is a geographical term meaning all the people living in Judaea. Does Paul mean all the different races of people living in Judea when he uses this term? No. Why? What is the context?

      He lists five attributes of the people living in Judaea that he is referring to:

      they killed their own prophets,
      they killed the Lord Jesus,
      they persecuted the Paul and his bretheren,
      they pleased not God,
      they are contrary to all men.

      Only Jews, using that word as we understand it today, fit all five qualifications. From the Holy Scriptures we know that:

      Jews killed the Lord Jesus,
      Jews persecuted the Paul and his bretheren,
      Jews pleased not God,
      Jews are contrary to all men.

      Paul learned at the feet of Gamaliel therefore I believe that he knew about the Jew’s prophets. Proto Judaism was Pauls religion during the time before his encounter with Jesus.

      When Paul says “and their own prophets” I believe he means the Jew’s own prophets and not the prophets sent to Israelites in the tribe of Judah:

      Do people confuse the Jews prophets with those of Judah? Those sent to Judah were: Samuel, Isaiah, Michah, Zephaniah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Nahum, Habakkuk, Joel, Obadiah?

      Where are any of these prophets killed in the Holy Scriptures?

      • melgibstein says:

        STS, I will have to dig into 2 Esdras where YHWH is talking to Esdras and tells him his people killed the prophets.

        Where are any of these prophets killed in the Holy Scriptures?

        Exactly right, which prophets?

        Maybe I read 2 Esdras wrong but I questioned a CI pastor on it during a study on this book and he really didnt know the answer. I want to know the answer and I know there was either some bad translation (maybe by us) or tampering in one of these books. I would have to go through the entire book of 2 Esdras to find it so when I find it I will put it here.

        Heres one in Matt

        King James Bible
        O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

        He cant be talking to the Jews there.

        Judah and Israel rebelled but not all, obviously. Jews cant rebel because they were never called.

        Its amazing how Duke is always claiming “its not all the Jews”, but he claims it was all the Jews (House of Judah, but he doesnt know the difference) during those days. Its an interesting paradigm. One is so easily professed as truth and the other is protected as a lie. How does he always get things 100% arse backwards? I guess he is having a dispute with a Swede now. HE DOESNT SEE ME FOLKS!!! If I was him I wouldnt see me either.

      • Is this a good source?

        http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/r/rsv/rsv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=3652195

        For some reason I don’t bother with these other books.

      • Yes. Two more references Matt 23:37, Luke 13:34 to study. Very good.

        Maybe Paul meant the Jews AND those Israelites they had fooled or bought off. That combination also fits the five criteria in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15.

        Try 2 Esdras 1:32 I sent to you my servants the prophets, but you have taken and slain them and torn their bodies in pieces; their blood I will require of you, says the Lord.

      • Maybe we should be thinking contemporaneously?

        John the Baptist was a prophet. Any others around his time?

      • melgibstein says:

        STS said:

        Is this a good source?

        http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/r/rsv/rsv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=3652195

        For some reason I don’t bother with these other books.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        Thats a good question and why I brought it up. You see what I mean about free speech? We know what we have closed the door on, let us move ahead and close the door on all the BS. I dont see any forums doing this, I see the leader and the followers……….no, I want the ecclesia. The leader is Yashua (Ya Saves) or we are all nothing. Some of us know the scriptures better than others, some know Jews better and some know the proselytes better and some of us know all of them a little better, but none of us know it all without all of us.

      • melgibstein says:

        Those children at Fatima sure are not Adamic.
        ALL of religion is a racket. The Holy Scriptures tell us that:
        Yes I agree with you Gibson being Jewish.
        Listening to Eli James? Why?
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        I was trying to get into the chatroom to alert them, but I was booted out long ago.
        I dont just go where the truth is I go where the lies are coming from too (speaking of John the Baptist).

        So how was he talking to Esdras directly claiming his people killed the prophets? Is Esdras 2 not to be trusted?

      • If I understand correctly:

        2Ezdras 1:4 The word of the Lord came to me, saying, 5″Go, declare to my people their evil deeds,
        1:32 I sent you my servants the prophets, but you have taken and killed them and torn their bodies in pieces; I will require their blood of you, says the Lord.

        “My people” would be Israel. And 2Esdras 1:32 is saying that Israel has killed the prophets. This contradicts what Jesus and Paul say.

        Therefore the authenticity of Esdras warrants further study. Personally I think that there is more than enough in the KJV + Concordance + language study.

        What do you think?

      • melgibstein says:

        Therefore the authenticity of Esdras warrants further study. Personally I think that there is more than enough in the KJV + Concordance + language study.

        What do you think?
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I think it has to be because we have a conflict here. Bottom line is Israelites and or Judahites were duped and YHWH held them responsible. One thing is for sure here, the Jews would never be guilty of anything in their book, but it is a conflict that needs to be defeated.

        Where else would something like this even be discussed? The Judeo churches? In a Pastor led talkshow where the pastor passes right over it? Where?

    • Mel,

      maybe bingo?

      Matthew 23:29-31 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

      • melgibstein says:

        So who killed the prophets, the House of Judah hierarchy, the Idumeans or both?

        Either way the Bible says Yashua or Jesus went to the House of Israel and never the House of Judah and of course never to the Jews. The apostles were all Benjamanites and lived outside of Judah. The heirarchy of Judah was obviously like our hierarchy today, mixed, duped or spiritually void so he couldnt claim he came for the House of Judah (figuratively). He had to snap Paul out of it.

        Maybe Im wrong, but Im not wrong to question it and nobody else is……and I do mean nobody.

        I questioned it in Eli James’ chatroom and he didnt know where to take it, right now he is claiming Mary came to the Jewish inhabitants of Fatima, I have been to Fatima and the people are not bigger than 5 feet tall at their tallest. The German priest hit his head on Lucia’s door when he went in to talk with her, sadly enough I did the same thing reading the book later that same week. This is one of the reasons I think Gibson is a Jew because he was also big on the Fatima ordeal. Why would Mary come to Jewish Muslims? The whole town is Jew selling trinkets, holy water wtc. A huge scam. Eli James believes Mary went to these people and the Pope hid the 3rd secret bla bla bla. Just CRAP!

        Yes Mary hid in the bushes to talk to the bubelehs. Lucia was “cloistered” from everyone but Mel……he was allowed in because he did a movie about Jewish Jesus with a hooked nose.

        http://www.livescience.com/images/i/000/039/736/original/Fatima-children.jpg?1367535151

        Odd you never hear Jews questioning this event either.

        We say “Holocaust was a hoax” Jews say “yeah what about Fatima?” and the lemmings dont know how to respond. They were both Jew hoaxes.

      • “ye are the children of them which killed the prophets”

        Back to Genesis 3:15

      • Those children at Fatima sure are not Adamic.
        ALL of religion is a racket. The Holy Scriptures tell us that:
        Yes I agree with you Gibson being Jewish.
        Listening to Eli James? Why?

        Back to the issue:

        We know that some of the Pharisees manifested some good behavior: Nicodemus, Gamaliel? Perhaps these were of Israel? Otherwise why would Jesus discuss matters with Nicodemus to the extent that he did? He would not.

        Judging by the New Testament the vast majority of the Pharisees were Jews by the time of Jesus.

        The Kingdom of Judah was racially compromised from the beginning. Given the lack of righteousness of man it would not take many Jews to corrupt the House of Judah. They had already demanded Kings!!! so they were miles and miles away from the Holy Scriptures and had a lot to learn. The hard way as per usual.

        Matthew 23:29 -36 : Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

        Here Jesus identifies the Jews within the scribes and Pharisees racially and genetically:

        in the days of our fathers
        ye are the children of them which killed the prophets
        the measure of your fathers
        Ye serpents
        ye generation (gennema, offspring) of vipers (Genesis 3:15 Satan)
        upon this generation (genea, race)

        and tells us that this race killed the prophets.

        This clarifies Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15.

      • melgibstein says:

        Those children at Fatima sure are not Adamic.
        ALL of religion is a racket. The Holy Scriptures tell us that:
        Yes I agree with you Gibson being Jewish.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        The really strange part about this is I had a layover in Lisbon, someone bought off my ticket to the US and got an extra day and a half in Lisbon which I checked out and left right quickly. Headed up to Fatima and checked the entire place out head to toe, went into the homes, walked the gamut path, everything…….Opened up the newspapers on the flight home and Mel Gibstone was pictured chatting with Lucia in Porto and as I said I opened up a book on Fatima and couldn’t believe the German priest hit his head on the door just as I did. He was probably looking at the donation box right in the middle of the living room as he walked inside (a very Jewish sight).

        Nobody sees anything wrong with Gibson volunteering Jesus a hooked nose…..I guess I’m out in right field, so be it. Mel is everyones hero because they are duped lemmings. If John the Baptist himself gave Jesus a hooked nose I would say the same thing.

      • Interesting story:

        “Nobody sees anything wrong with Gibson volunteering Jesus a hooked nose…..I guess I’m out in right field, so be it.”

        No. I do as well.

        There are so many anti scriptural references in the film. It is horrible.

      • Chat transcript for

        Yahweh’s Covenant People
        07/10/2015 08:38 PM EDT
        59:46
        II Esdras, Part 2

        Pastor Eli James
        July 10,2015 9:58 pm | Message ID: 24025995
        Chjapter 1 of II Esdras is totally inspired
        ——————————————————————————————–

        The chapter needs to be examined but it is interesting to get everyone’s opinions on the table.

      • melgibstein says:

        He made sure to make the mother of Jesus an Ashkenazi Jewess too. If one doesnt go to hell for that I dont know who will.

      • Luke 11:48-54 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things: Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

        More evidence in Luke 11:48-54 that the blood of the prophets is linked to that race.

        searching on blood AND prophets brings up:

        Matthew 23:30
        Luke 11:50
        Revelation 16:6

        This is particularly damming:

        Revelation 18:24 And in her (that great city Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

        I listened to the Eli James – Gregg Howard 2 Esdras episode II broadcast and there were somethings I would like to question. Do they take calls?

  10. Ray Zerwitt says:

    The Earth is the only place in the Universe where evil exists. I thought it was preposterous when I first read those words by Dr Wesley Swift. But now, I think I was too much of a pussy to draw the obvious conclusion. Michael isolated it here and the flood and volcanoes took out the worst of the ‘jews’ where they were gathered en masse. Yahweh sent his Elohim Adamites for the surgical neutralization, so as not to harm the innocent. The stewards and governors of the earth. Ishrael (man ruling with El), Aryans (mountains of Yah). What was Abraham’s plea to Yahweh in re Sodom and Gomorrah. Will you spare it for 10 righteous? After that, he stopped asking. There were between 0 and 10 righteous in Sodom and Gomorrah. No surgical infantry needed.

    Here’s another conundrum that takes some balls: Am I an Israelite, Adamite, Elohim? On the one hand, that would bolster my vanity to think so. On the other hand, I would be a coward not to accept my charge. ‘You will serve me without price or reward’ is one that comes to mind. ‘To whom much is given, much is expected’ is another one. A peculiar people have to be OUT THERE. White people don’t get away with doing what muds do. The muds themselves are the first ones to hate you for it. Even the paganism wasn’t like anything else.

    The blessings and curses of Deut 28 and Lev 26 do not apply to these ‘jews’, no way, no how. You believe jews or you believe Yahweh. Lies and liars are dull. Dookie and Dummkopf like to tie it up and corrupt it in the minutiae. The whole internet sound bites it and interprets another Talmud. It’s all jew. How they cry for the Canaanites.

  11. Roy says:

    Question for Ray Zerwitt —

    Do all the Races come from Adam and Eve?

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      Roy

      I think you already know the answer to that. The Orientals are probably the only true natives of this planet. “We are strangers and pilgrims in the earth”. Boy, can I ever agree with that.

      Did you know that all snakes aren’t related? Some are as friendly as kittens. So, it seems there were 2 pools of slime and maybe more. As if one pool of slime isn’t ridiculous enough.

      In the early days of internet blogs, in it’s innocent youth, before the Rechabites had their template up and running, I read tales of microbiologists becoming the latest new converts to Yahweh’s word, by some backdoor route. Then, I heard tales of microbiologists dying mysterious deaths. Adding that up, do you think they found irrefutable proof of animals in human form? People aren’t all related. The white race is the youngest race on the planet.

      That brings up Erol of Erolon.blogspot again. Check out what he says about jew’s MRI’s. There’s a scientific way to weed out those tares out now. How long can they hold down the lid on these things?

      • Ray Zerwitt says:

        How straight does it have to be? No. All races didn’t come from Adam and Eve. Genesis 1 and 2 say no such thing.

        Yeah, check out what Erol found out about stunted amygdalas and the relationship between morality, personal discipline and intelligence. Hedonists retard themselves. I go for the bigger bang. 1 is better than 1000.

      • Roy says:

        Ray…..

        I owe you an apology. Looking back through the replies, my question was meant for ROGER. I mistakenly addressed my question to you. So very sorry!!!

        So I guess I will ask it again…………

        ROGER MARTIN —

        Do you believe all the races come from Adam and Eve?

    • No.

      http://erolon.blogspot.com/

      Is conspiritainment land.

      This guy?

      He looks Jewish.

      • Ray Zerwitt says:

        Maybe he is jewish. Maybe you’re jewish too. Are we going to play ‘shoot the messenger’ now? Can you argue what he found out about stunted brain development?

        With a boisterous moniker like “Study the Holy Scriptures”, you have to be told that all races didn’t come from Adam and Eve?

        Here are 2 laws my 8th grade sex-ed teacher taught me.

        1 All venereal diseases come from animals.
        2 Venereal diseases run rampant in homosexual communities.

        Me, being a shining boy, discerned a 3rd law: Homosexuals fuck animals.

        2 laws beget a 3rd law which can then be applied. 30 fold 60 fold 100 fold? This is how we study the holy scriptures. That’s one way to hide it from the stunted amygdalas. Let us reason together. It takes some tremendous balls to realize some of those conclusions. I had to get drunk off my ass to realize Satan’s children were actually walking around in human form. Deny it, I couldn’t. It answered too many questions in one swoop.

      • Ray Zerwitt says:

        Manu and HuMan originally meant “spirit man”, different from the others. ‘Spirit’ as in having Yahweh’s own breath.

    • http://erolon.blogspot.bg/2015/03/there-are-countless-ancient-texts-about.html

      I challenge anyone to defend that as not being new age/masonic/gnostic/conspiritainment gibberish.

      Ray are you Erol?

      • Ray Zerwitt says:

        I’m not Erol! You go off on some tangents. Erol is a f#$%^&ckin goof, no doubt. But his model doesn’t disagree with the scriptures. I gtg work now. With so many jobs out there now, I go and get a yob. I’ve been sticking my hand into a barrel of pussies and pulling out an asshole, every time. It really sucks to be me right now. But it sure is making me pretty.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      No Harm, no foul, Roy.

      Your question livened it up some. I would also like to see Roger’s answer to that.

      For one thing, Roger should look up ‘Lake of Fire’. It’s Yahweh’s Shekinah Glory and the jews already hiss and spit in it, as they burn, while the saints revel in it. A revival would burn them out, but there’s Dookie and Dummkopf steering it into impotent theologian horseshit and guarding the door. It’s the bread mixed with the dung of a man. They fashion it with lies of jews. Christians have a problem with authority, but not like in the martyr days. They don’t know who their authority AM. As in the days of Jeroboam, the lowest are put in the offices of high authority. And, I DO mean THE LOWEST.

      What would you rather have; a line of cocaine or Lake of Fire in you? I’ve had both and cocaine is filth. Methamphetamine too.

      • Roy says:

        Thanks for your understanding. Sorry again. I have a feeling Roger won’t answer.

        I’m always curious the lengths at which Evangelicals like Roger will go to pervert the Scripture. When I was an Evangelical, I was taught to believe that at the Tower of Babel is when God changed the Races. Crazy!!! I’m very embarrassed for accepting that. But I was in my early 20’s.

        So…………Roger………….do all the Races come from Adam and Eve?

  12. melgibstein says:

    I was going to respond in person to David Dukes and Pastor Dumkof’s show but I think the Jew Randy Quaid will have to do it for me.

  13. melgibstein says:

    STS said:
    Try 2 Esdras 1:32 I sent to you my servants the prophets, but you have taken and slain them and torn their bodies in pieces; their blood I will require of you, says the Lord.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes I believe that is it.

    STS said:

    Maybe we should be thinking contemporaneously?

    John the Baptist was a prophet. Any others around his time?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    His father?

    Judah was duped by the Jews and why he came to his own and they knew him not.

    Of course this doesnt mean the Jews were his own it means the House of Judah was duped by the Jews just as they are today along with all the tribes scattered abroad. As far as the world knows today there is only one tribe- the Jews and they just cant snap out of that.

  14. melgibstein says:

    Why is it that CI people or true Israel people constantly fight and why do all the Stormfronters, Ugly Truthers, What Reaily Happened dorks, Professor Evolutionist nimnkompoops all get along so well? Because they believe they have all the truth they need and it isnt important for them to know all the truth and people spreading lies is not important to them. If I said right now that I know an Israelite by his hatred of lies I guarantee you within the week I could post you a Jew shill saying exactly what I just wrote (Hello Robert Reyvolt), but it is the truth…….people of truth hate lies, but they have to be willing to work those lies out………..finding the right people to do that is another story however and why there has to be an ecclesia. Start with a few and add on people as they agree to certain truths and to do that people have to agree on word definitions.
    The Jews playbook is built on double think and why the shills have to keep the Jews in the game and accepted as truth. You will never do a damned thing believing a word means two things. That requires no Jews and no people who think like Jews. We need our own protocols, but the shills are making a play book look Jewish. No a playbook is a plan and they want no plans so we are going to have to. Its like saying “Jews eat so we shouldnt eat”. “Jews only marry Jews so whites shouldnt marry whites”. These shills are always using the Jews, we dont need them in the least, what we need is a plan and a mission to carry that plan out- period.

  15. melgibstein says:

    Our great CI website is pushing this dog doo= Eurofolk radio

    MacDonald a vehement atheist (who doesnt know history from a crack dealer) and John Friend a puppy dog who pretends he is all ears in CI, but just cant open a Bible. The truth is a false friend is far worse than an open enemy. He’ll be on David Duke next week for sure now.

    I have become an enemy of these idiots and their divisive BS. If it isnt Nibiru its flat earth and if it isnt Flat Earth it’s bringing every shill in the world in to cushion their movements so nobody can say they dont deal with CI. They deal with the Jewish CI is what they do for an even greater division.
    Eli James will never debate anyone of any notoriety because they will bomb him with his own BS and it is done deliberately. He will go into a world of BS that makes CI look like buffoons.

    My recommendation is to turn this crap off and take note of who these morons accept as their own, you will see it is nothing but a big network of people deliberately forestalling thought.

    This entire Eurofolk radio is CI light moving to the middle for more listeners and to ruin their old listeners (its universal now). This is why you rarely see anyone stick with these pastors on Eurofolk- nobody trusts them. They will have some shill on their shows rather than take calls from their own listeners. Shameless! This John Friend crowd makes me sick.

    They claim I am divisive because I never have anything “good” to say about them (so like Jews and the Holocaust they outlawed me). Why dont they just face the issues they dont like? Its show business. This is not the group I want to ever be associated with. They might as well be the Jew homo movement.

    Just listen to one show and listen how many times they praise a Jew or they call Jews Zionists- that is not CI folks.

    • Who is the guy on the left of the rabbit?

      Nibiru, flat earth, no nukes, astrotheology, Icke Lizards, Bilderburg, CFR, Freemasons, and on and on

      It is called it conspiritainment.

      Next year there will be a new theory or maybe different spin on an old one. Anything but the Holy Scriptures.

      The progression I see is:

      Christianity -> Jewish Christian Identity -> Christian Identity -> Identity.

      Jesus Christ did not have any thing good to say about the religion of his day.

      He says similar things about Christianity.

      What you said is interesting:

      “I want the ecclesia. The leader is Yashua (Ya Saves) or we are all nothing. Some of us know the scriptures better than others, some know Jews better and some know the proselytes better and some of us know all of them a little better, but none of us know it all without all of us.”

      This relates to what Jesus is talking about in John 15. The ekklesia is a key concept and it has a parallel in the Old Testament.

      “This entire Eurofolk radio is CI light moving to the middle for more listeners and to ruin their old listeners (its universal now).”

      Universal in the sense of multiracial?

      My focus for the last two years is who talks about the TRUTH of the Holy Scriptures rather than railing against Jews, discussing the 2012 apocalypse, Atlantis, Sep 2015 crash, ancient aliens etc etc etc.

  16. melgibstein says:

    STS replied:

    Luke 11:48-54 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things: Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

    More evidence in Luke 11:48-54 that the blood of the prophets is linked to that race.

    searching on blood AND prophets brings up:

    Matthew 23:30
    Luke 11:50
    Revelation 16:6

    This is particularly damming:

    Revelation 18:24 And in her (that great city Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    I listened to the Eli James – Gregg Howard 2 Esdras episode II broadcast and there were somethings I would like to question. Do they take calls?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So Esdras is the only one that looks like Judah killed the prophets I guess. Again I think there is a little of blame on Judah because they brought the Idumeans in and not the House of Israel. I would blame them too. Its why there had to be a new covenant with both houses and not according to their fathers.

    He wont take a call if he thinks its me but he does take calls. He used to take calls on all his shows but I called in all his shows. Now he is free to babble unquestioned and where he wanted it to go anyway. None of the pastors appear to have any questions whatsoever……they have found ALL the answers already I presume. Thats why I ask questions, Im in it for the truth not fame or anything else. I will question myself hopefully at all times. Let me clarify that I am not a pastor, I just try to double check everything for hypocrisy.

    Those 2 were the ones who loved Esdras 2 but they waltzed right over that verse in it. That isnt what Im here to do. That is what the Judeos do.

  17. Any idea what time period you were calling in?

    Are these the shows on Talkshoe?

    • melgibstein says:

      I may have asked him on his old Saturday blogtalk show, but I asked him and he really couldnt give an answer, but he did stop claiming that Jews alone killed the prophets, Judah helped. I dont even think it was about the House of Israel, they left because of taxation (all 12 tribes) and took up other Gods. Judah had to be punished too and they were. He didnt come back as half a kinsman redeemer and why “the believers” of Judah would only be saved. The dupes were toast just like they would be today.

  18. melgibstein says:

    David Dukes guest today is Biblical Scholar (umm hmm) Blake Sawyer, without a doubt a homosexual whose fist few words were “Jesus came for all”. When Jesus said numerous times “I come but only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel” numerous times what do these morons claim he is saying? Is this deliberate deception and Satanic? Yes folks, I believe with every fiber of my being that it is exactly that. How is it Duke has everyone on his show including unknown homosexuals from the main stream but never someone who differs from Dukes Christianity? Is Duke a Biblical scholar too that found a scholar who is equivalent to himself or has Duke found an idiot equivalent to himself? Duke claimed in his audio book tha Edom represented white people………folks that is all you ever need to know about him……….ever.

  19. HB says:

    The Bible has not one but MULTIPLE References to Flat Earth, 4 corners, and Pillars in both OLD and NEW Testament, but YOU wish to now claim the Bible as errant?
    You prefer the lies of Galileo, Newton and Einstein? Now thats Chutzpah.
    Way to go, Mel.

    Dont know much about John Friend, but unlike you, I dont dislike or smear a man who seeks to learn, and encourages others in any truth movement. Unlike You, he has put his name out there and lost his decent job as a result of….Real white of you to attack him ‘Mel’

    • melgibstein says:

      Walt, the flat earth nonsense is right up your alley. As far as Friend being so brave, maybe he should make up his mind who to prop up, the evolutionist pagans or the people who study true history. I want a middle man around me like I want a jew around me. So theres your answer and I am free to my own opinion and if Friend ever wants to debate me or his anus friends Im right here. I lost my security clearance 15 years ago so boo hoo hoo. Got back in a few times by finding some loopholes in the security clearance system and the nature of why they took my clearance away. If I wasnt a so called antisemite I would be living on a yacht in the Med right now. Next you will be protecting the great white leader DeNugent who got molested by his own white father. What an ASSet! Tell him Ill debate him too, Mr Weekend Warrior. If you represent a white man, a Marine or even an antisemite so to speak you represent me and therefore I represent them. If you represent me wrongly Im comin for ya (woos or not). Send me a picture of the edge of the world when you find it or are you too scared? You have your opinion I have mine- Im tired of wooses you can all go to hell.

      • bharford says:

        Thanks Mel. So what you’re saying is that the Bible is errant and wrong, correct? And that The Freemasons honoring Galileo with a ceremonial burial and naming lodges after him was all coincidence too, right? corners or ends at all. If Magnetic Poles can be taken as ends or corners of earth, then this definitely opposed to the axis of rotation.

        Isaiah 11:12
        12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

        Revelation 7:1
        1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

        Job 38:13
        13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

        Jeremiah 16:19
        19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

        Daniel 4:11
        11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

        Matthew 4:8
        8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

        Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
        New and Old Testament confirm that earth is flat. Freemasons worked to prove it is t and they actually never did. On Denugent and Friend. I’ve not seen or heard anything from them to doubt them as assets. So unlike you I will not smear them

        The flat Earth is established and can never move?! The Sun hurries back to where it rises?!

        The Psalm 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:5 verses from the Bible

        “He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)”

  20. Ray Zerwitt says:

    It’s Dark Ages II. They have them stupid enough to believe in a flat Earth (again). Of course, this presumes that it isn’t ‘they’ playing ‘them’ too. Like the way they load the Oprah Winfrey and Phil Donahue audiences up with the advocates of their lies, to make it look like established fact and everybody knows it. I watched their little videos of their case for a flat Earth, and it’s based on the most arbitrary and flimsiest premises. I’ll leave it to HB to find out for himself what those bogus premises are, again presuming he’s not a baal priest pushing this BS here now, like I’ve seen it pushed just about everywhere else, with all the accompanying jew tricks. It’s beneath me to correct idiocy that far out there. So, we have BILLIONS and BILLONS of celestial spheres in the Universe and ONE disc. uhhuh…. Tough love commands they be slapped if they are innocent, however stupid. The irredeemable don’t get slapped which proves they have no covenant with Yahweh.

    People aren’t going to get behind these internet big mouth opportunists. They’re too weak. That’s controlled opposition for ya. It’s not hip on the college campus to ever talk about Yahweh and his word, unless you mix it with the dung of a man like dookie and dummkopf (who I hold up as poster children). The college campus is a social club they serve. It’s collegianity. It’s a baal and they all obey it. Avante garde iconoclastic thinkers? I don’t think so. They pledged their obedience to it every day they worked so hard to learn those lies in a college class, to fit in and be accepted. In saner times, their sycophantic weaknesses would guarantee they would never see the inside of a school of higher learning. It’s the one constant with all of these weak internet blogs.

    What’s encouraging about it is they’re described in vivid detail by Yahweh’s scribner prophets. They think they’re weakening it. Au contraire, fools. They juxtapose themselves against it and it’s them who come up wanting (of a spine and a pair of balls). Never trust a pussy.

    The two-edged sword is in His mouth. It’s words. I wanna see their entrails swinging from the trees.

    • melgibstein says:

      If Im not mistaken that was my nemesis Walt who used to be known as a so called pre Vatican Catholic, among other things. Before the flat earth nonsense he was pushing the Paul was an Edomite nonsense. There is just no pattern, he no doubt married a jew and now has jew kids. I feel for the guy but there is no way out except the truth.

      These flat earthers claim nobody said the world was round until Galileo, but that is of course blatantly untrue, Pythagoras (a Phoenician) was one of the first long before Galileo to at the very least speak of it and all of his Greek students like Plato agreed. I guess they are unimportant. The Romans were not able to sail out of the gates of Hercules for years and probably why the Phoenicians kept their writings secret, and also why the Romans burned any writings they had and rewrote it as their own. Amazing to me how people are not fascinated with the Phoenicians who gave us the basics of all our knowledge. Our Jew heirarchy today is ok with that and so are our baal churches. That old saying “my enemy of my enemy is my friend” has to be one of the dumbest sayings there ever was………it means you will side with a jew over your enemy because it is obvious that they dont even know who their enemy even is or they would name them. Your enemy is never your kin folk unless the Jew has gotten inside or more commonly known today as a crypto).

    • bharford says:

      Really? Maybe you can explain why 1 explorer has ever traversed the earth from pole to pole in North to Simouth longitude fashion or vice versa nor has any such flight been attempted. I take it you don’t read your bible much as its clearly worded in both old and new testaments the references to a flat earth….. J ews and Freemasons have tried to remove God from the picture for centuries. Galileo was a huge milestone for them and why he’s honored by them. Next you’ll tell us global warming, global overpopulation and or global cooling are real too..,, Thanks Mel. So what you’re saying is that the Bible is errant and wrong, correct? And that The Freemasons honoring Galileo with a ceremonial burial and naming lodges after him was all coincidence too, right? corners or ends at all. If Magnetic Poles can be taken as ends or corners of earth, then this definitely opposed to the axis of rotation.

      Isaiah 11:12
      12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

      Revelation 7:1
      1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

      Job 38:13
      13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

      Jeremiah 16:19
      19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

      Daniel 4:11
      11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

      Matthew 4:8
      8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

      Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
      New and Old Testament confirm that earth is flat. Freemasons worked to prove it is t and they actually never did. On Denugent and Friend. I’ve not seen or heard anything from them to doubt them as assets. So unlike you I will not smear them

      The flat Earth is established and can never move?! The Sun hurries back to where it rises?!

      The Psalm 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:5 verses from the Bible

      “He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)”

      • melgibstein says:

        Someone such as yourself who thinks Jesus, Yashua was a Jew should have no problems whatsoever proving the earth is flat. The sun is flat the moon is flat, the North Star is a trapezoid and you are a jew.

        So what you’re saying is that the Bible is errant and wrong, correct?

        No, what I am saying is the usual thing I tell you, you read the Bible wrong.

  21. melgibstein says:

    Matthew 4:8
    8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

    One example of your ignorance and no more. World does not mean planet in this case just as Jesus came to save the whole world- he came to restore Israel, that was his world. So you are saying that Jesus and Satan could see the entire flat earth from a hill in Jerusalem or around it? Have you ever even been there? Youre delusional.

  22. HB says:

    I never said world Meant planet!
    But I did just just gave you multiple scripture verses proving legitimacy of our flat earth, and you say I read it wrong…. Youre an idiot or delusional. You cant have it both ways, Either the bible is lying, you are lying and the scientists have lied, as the J EWs Push.
    Again, is 2015, why hasnt 1 explorer ever traversed the earth from North to south around the globe in longitude fashion, or any pilot made such flight?

    Isaiah 11:12
    12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

    Revelation 7:1
    1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

    Job 38:13
    13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

    Jeremiah 16:19
    19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

    Daniel 4:11
    11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

    Matthew 4:8
    8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

    “He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)”

  23. HB says:

    And I have never claimed falsely that Christ was a J EW either.
    Paul, as an Edomite? Possibly. A corrupter? Possibly. Persecutor of early Christians? No doubt.

    Here Paul says to submit to Obama and the minority affirmative action politicians leading us to ruin. I dont want to get off on a tangent, Id rather discuss flat earth and why you promote the freemasonic version of our earth…
    Hebrews 13:17
    ‘Obey them that have the rule over you, and Submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.’

  24. HB says:

    Yep, its Walt.
    Youre desperate to smear me by taking jabs at my wife, it seems. Pretty weak really. But noot surprising from a coward like you.
    My wife, if you must know, was a traditional Catholic when we met, a wonderful woman in every way, and Italian on both sides. Amico her Maiden name. We have the coat of arms and the geneology from the 1500s. Youre welcome to research the name.
    Next…

    • melgibstein says:

      It isnt the name I distrust, but if you insist I will research the name. Why would a name be of any truth? Jews steal names. A traditional Catholic is a religious belief it has nothing to do with being white or an Israelite. Italian, a true Italian looks no different than an Irishman, they are the same people that broke off, Celts and or Phoenicians, Gauls whatever names you want to give them. The question is were they descendants of the Jews of the Spanish Inquisition, Muslims or Moors? Thats the question because if you read the Bible in any depth at all you will see it is vehemently against race (blood) mixing. Now you can blame me for that forever but I didnt make the law he did. Take it up with him, but after what you said about Paul dont expect to be very welcome.

  25. HB says:

    Videos now with millions and hundreds of thousands of viewers. The truth cant be stopped.

    • melgibstein says:

      Perhaps you have a movie on 6 million Jews murdered in Nazi death camps too?

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      I saw that documentary and some others too. That’s how I know they’re liars having a good laugh at your expense. Are you the same people who never understood what causes the seasons, so therefore there must be something wrong with that theory? How far away do you people think the Sun is? About 50 miles? If it were 93 million miles away, everybody would see it the same angle from the horizon, either north to south or east to west and night would cover the whole earth or there would be no night at all and there would be no seasons. Can 100 million people really be this stupid?

      What about ‘the circle of the earth’ and ‘He hung it on nothing’?

      Why is so much chicanery needed if it’s so self evidently true. Why don’t you arbitrarily make the south pole the center of your flat earth? Then, the north pole would b the rim. How ’bout those fake pilot’s testimonials? Do those pilots no know that attitude indicators are adjustable? Do they not know that altimeters are just big glorified barometers? If you want the attitude indicator just below the horizon, just turn that little knob. WTF did you think attitude indicators are? Who are these idiot pilots? I’m an idiot pilot and I wouldn’t get on their plane. So, tell me why they have to resort to such lying trickery.

      I suggest you get your snoot back into the concordance and look up every other verse where those Hebrew words were translated, before you sail off the edge of the earth on a ship of fools.

      • HB says:

        Ray,
        Next youll tell us the NASA moon landing was real, and thats why NASA lost all footage of it, as they claimed just a few years ago. The worlds biggeswt event, and they lost all footage of it….
        Youre a CON.
        You believe what the Freemasons and J EWs tell you to.
        You dont read or believe your bible. Or GODs word. But youll believe Freemasons who celebrate the Fraud that is Galileo. This is how they con us with overpopulation, global warming and the rest. None of it is true. As if GOD made a mistake.,…the entire earths population can fit inside of Texas on 1500 sq ft lot, but we are over populated.
        Change of seasons as it relates to flat earth. Is that your question for me? Its easily answered just as it was for 1700 years Pre Galileo.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      Now, they’ll have to go concoct more tons of horseshit to cover the original pile.

  26. melgibstein says:

    Damiano, Dangelo, Daniel, Danieli, Dardo, De Abene, De Accardo, De Accolla, De Acugna, De Adario, De Alagona, De Albertino, De Alessandro, De Alessi, De Alessio, De Alotta, De Alotta, De Aloysi, De Amato, De Ambrosio, De Amico, De Amico, De Amore, De Andrea, De Andriano, De Anello, De Angelo, De Anigito, De Anquida, De Antilla, De Antonino, De Antonino, De Aquino, De Aquino, De Arberiz, De Arena, De Ariola, De Ariza, De Atilia, De Atuni, De Ayello, De Balsamo

    http://www.italian-family-history.com/jewish/Sicilia.html

    badda bing! Maybe she’s related to De Atilla the hun?

  27. HB says:

    Mel
    You lie.
    Thats why youre a liability to any truth movement. You literally make things up.
    I will type it again.
    Amico. A M I C O.
    Not D’Amico. or DaMico or DeAmico. But Amico. No Amicos were expelled or uncovered as Marranos. D’Amicos were. It is not the same name. And it wasnt my wifes name as far back as 1500.

    With my hundreds of posts, maybe you can cite one where I typed that Jesus was a J EW as you claim. But you know that I never did. I dare you to prove me wrong.
    I noticed you didnt comment on scripture either….as it relates to flat earth.

  28. melgibstein says:

    Thats like saying Nial wasnt of the ONeil lineage when its exactly what ONeil means.

    Here we have an Amicostein

    https://plus.google.com/104950597352041889319/about

  29. HB says:

    No its not. Read the geneology again…..

  30. HB says:

    “The Flat Earth: another Bedford Canal experiment” (Bernard H.Watson, et al),
    ENGLISH MECHANIC, 80:160, 1904

    Bedford Canal, England. A repeat of the 1870 experiment

    “A train of empty turf-boats had just entered the Canal from the river Ouse, and
    was about proceeding to Ramsey. I arranged with the captain to place the shallowest
    boat last in the train, and to take me on to Welney Bridge, a distance of six
    miles. A good telescope was then fixed on the lowest part of the stern of the last
    boat. The sluice gate of the Old Bedford Bridge was 5ft. 8in. high, the turf-boat
    moored there was 2ft. 6in. high, and the notice board was 6ft. 6in. from the water.

    The sun was shining strongly upon them in the direction of the south-southwest; the
    air was exceedingly still and clear, and the surface of the water smooth as a
    molten mirror, so that everything was favourable for observation. At 1.15 p.m. the
    train started for Welney. As the boats gradually receded, the sluice gate, the
    turf-boat and the notice board continued to be visible to the naked eye for about
    four miles. When the sluice gate and the turf-boat (being of a dark colour) became
    somewhat indistinct, the notice board (which was white) was still plainly visible,
    and remained so to the end of six miles. But on looking through the telescope all
    the objects were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance. On reaching
    Welney Bridge I made very careful and repeated observations, and finding several
    men upon the banks of the canal, I called them to look through the telescope. They
    all saw distinctly the white notice board, the sluice gate, and the black turf-boat
    moored near them.

    Now, as the telescope was 18in. above the water, The line of sight would touch the
    horizon at one mile and a half away (if the surface were convex). The curvature of
    the remaining four miles and a half would be 13ft. 6in. Hence the turf-boat should
    have been 11ft., the top of the sluice gate 7ft. 10in., and the bottom of the
    notice board 7ft. below the horizon.

    My recent experiment affords undeniable proof of the Earth’s unglobularity, because
    it rests not on transitory vision; but my proof remains printed on the negative of
    the photograph which Mr.Clifton took for me, and in my presence, on behalf of
    J.H.Dallmeyer, Ltd.

    A photograph can not ‘imagine’ nor lie!” (1)

    Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, this surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe.

    Oh yes there’s more proof to.

    Professor Mark Fonstad of Southwest Texas University demonstrates that Kansas is Flatter than a Pancake (2) violating round earth assumptions

    Very comman assumption is that with distance a curvature is demonstrated. If a state like kansas is flat than the assumption of curvature with distance is false

    Surveyors’ operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest “allowance” being made for “curvature,” although it is taught
    that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.
    There should be a curvature factor if said earth is a globe. Being that engerneering has never found it, the earth is flat.

    As mariners take to sea with them charts constructed as though the sea were a level surface, however these charts may err as to the true form of this level surface taken as a whole, it is clear,
    as they find them answer their purpose tolerably well – and only tolerably for many ships are wrecked owing to the error of which we speak – that the surface of the sea is as it is taken to be,
    whether the captain of the ship “supposes” the Earth to be a globe or anything else. Thus, then, we draw, from the common system of “plane sailing,”
    a practical proof that Earth is not a globe.

    I could go on. But proof coems to proof of flat earth

    SCRIPTURE proves it
    Philosophy proves it
    Science proves it
    Mariners prove it
    Enginerring proves it

    The Earth IS FLAT

  31. HB says:

    Maybe Ray in his infinite wisdom, can tell us all why no one ever had circumnavigated the earth North to South or South To North. Longitude fashio.
    Nor has any such flight ever been attempted or done….ever.
    Its 2015. Hello.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      You need an ice cutter boat to get through the ice at the north pole, Not the best thing for high seas. And who said it’s never been done? What you’re describing now is a cylinder. 4 corners of the Earth? That would be a square or a cube. At the south pole is a big continent called Antarctica with the roughest seas in the world all around it. Magellan’s voyage around the Earth DID go North and South.

  32. melgibstein says:

    If your arse was flat I wouldnt believe you.

  33. HB says:

    And YOU dont believe Scripture either! Though you claim to, but youre a liar and a hypocrite.

    Next youll tell us NASA hasnt faked any images or that the moon footage was real….

    Since the 17th century we have been told sold that we live on a round, then elliptical,
    now pear shaped Earth, spinning around on its tilted axis at over 1,000 mph while
    the Earth orbits the Sun, some 533 million miles each and every year.

    This translates to incredible (as in unbelievable) speeds of 68,000 mph, or over 1,000 miles per second. Though we never feel a breath of evidence of movement or spinning, many stars remained “fixed” in the sky overhead while buildings, ocean and Man stay affixed to the rapidly
    spinning ball due to an immense velcro force called “gravity” which in the etymology
    of words, simply means “weight”.

    Here science is put to the test by Brian Mullin who shows how it is impossible,
    using basic scientific method, that we live on a round spinning ball Earth proving the ever more likelihood that we live on a flat, plane Earth and have been lied to for 500 years.

    Please send this around to all science friends, teachers and professionals for repudiation or validation. Only through proving the fallacy of heliocentric scientific theory can geocentric flat earth theory be validated in our bassakwards ways of proving something right by what is not.

    *****

    A problem for discussion involving a plane flying relative to a rotating Earth. In the problem were are a “stationary” observer watching the plane fly on a spinning Earth, so this is why the rotation of Earth is relevant. The problem is that the plane ends up with a greater velocity to the east than that of the north-south orientated runway that it is trying to land on. There must be some unknown force that can balance out these differences in velocities for ALL planes that fly east or west during their flights. How do we calculate this force? Where does it come from? The only way to get rid of the need for the force is to stop the Earth from spinning. If we can’t calculate this, the Earth does not spin. We are able to calculate forces and velocities for all situations throughout Physics. There cannot be an exception for this. The problem also looks at the curvature the plane would have to fly over to get from one airport to the other. It appears that the plane would have to constantly “nose down” to follow the curvature.

    http://ifers.boards.net/thread/132/proof-nasa-fakes-images-earth

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      By the numbers you cite of 18 inches per mile and a half of curve would give us an angle of 0.011 degrees. A 50 foot long airplane’s nose would dip not even 1/8th of an inch to be parallel to the curvature of the earth. Besides that, your ratio is wrong. Do your scientists have the instruments to measure such a slight pitch? How would they do that?

      I’m only humoring your cartoonlike understanding of it. It’s all a moot point anyway. Practicing slow flight, you have to pitch that nose up to maintain your altitude. That’s when a pilot would have to adjust the attitude indicator, if he uses that. I always used the climb and descent indicator. The pitch of an airplane has nothing to do with the curvature of the Earth. The wings generate lift by causing high pressure below the wing and low pressure above it. If you dip the airplanes nose, the pressure is on the top of the wings and it flies down. It’s not the pitch of the nose, it’s the pitch of the wings. You’re getting up to chicanery again.

      • melgibstein says:

        Question: Why do flights from the USA to Asia travel far north (above Alaska/Siberia) rather than the seemingly more direct “straight line” across the Pacific?

        —submitted by reader John, Parrish, Fla.

        Answer: It is shorter to fly the Great Circle route than a straight line due to the circumference of the earth being so much greater at the equator than near the poles.

        In a concave earth that would be the opposite.

      • DC says:

        The shortest distance between two points on a sphere would be the same in concave Earth theory as in a convex as the shape of the sphere is identical. The only difference in concave Earth theory is you are on the inside of the sphere.

        Pictures taken of the Earth from space will look identical too, but of course “space” is limited to the volume of the inside of the sphere and not endless nothingness as we are led to believe by Jews. It follows that stars and plants do not then represent entire solar systems as we are taught in school.

        Here’s a 3D model of how it may look.

        I agree with some of what this troll said about the heliocentric model being a cover up of creation theory, which ties in with other scientific frauds like the Big Bang theory and Theory of Evolution.

        All these satanic hoaxes are designed to turn us away from scripture by making us think we are small and insignificant in the Universe and are here by sheer random chance and not by intelligent design.

        There is some debate within the concave Earth community as to whether satellites really exist or not.

        GPS, many believe is still based on the older ground-based system and that rockets launched into space only go a short distance before falling into the ocean.

        Others believed by some that they may orbit a smaller inner sphere at the center of the concave Earth, but this idea is also complicated that there is evidence of a “glass sky” about 100 km up which has to be “punched through”.

        This glass sky may have some relationship to the “firmament” mentioned in Genisis. It is believed that God may have caused the flood by punching a hole in the glass sky, which is said to have a layer of water above it.

        According to a recent video by Queeny Cameron where she debunks this false doctrine from a Biblical perspective, the flat Earth doctrine is a well known Jesuit agenda that has been making round on the internet lately.

        It’s probably no surprise it found it’s way here.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      And it doesn’t matter how fast you’re going. The only thing you feel in the seat of your pants is acceleration and deceleration. That’s algebraically balanced by falling around the sun, so you don’t feel it. In your cartoonlike mind, space is causing friction. If that were so, the atmosphere would have rubbed off. Airplanes fly on airspeed and they don’t know or care if the Earth is spinning at 1000 miles per hour unless that would affect their airspeed, which it doesn’t. You’re employing every jew trick to force this down people’s throats, including ostracization.

      What do you think when it says “I will return to you a pure language”? That should tell you there’s something wrong with our languages. So, how can a translation be 100%?

      Go look up those words that you think make the Earth flat, and see all the other ways they were translated. The exchange rate between Hebrew and English is 3500:500,000. You can’t add words to Hebrew and still call it Hebrew. It’s binary like that. Those 3500 words are phyla. A tree is also a race.

      Here’s one for ya: Build a tunnel through the Earth and jump in it. Where would you settle?

  34. DC says:

    Obviously this guy is trolling, but I’ve read some articles and have watches some videos that do indeed suggest that the heliocentric model of the solar system is wrong and NASA is lying, so if my sources are accurate then he’s not 100% wrong either .

    NASA is full of shit and lies all the time and fakes pictures and videos of the earth and the ISS. It is highly likely they did indeed fake the moon landing and more than one individuals I follow claims NASA it is a highly satanic organisation.

    However if the Earth isn’t moving and the heliocentric model is bogus it does not prove that the Earth is flat either. There is a far more credible theory in my opinion that is supported up by scientific experiments done over a century ago. This theory poses that the Earth is not moving and is “concave” not “convex” as we are told and we are living in the middle of the sphere and not on the outside with the Sun and solar system at the middle of a hollow sphere.

    Proponents of this theory cite two main proofs that we are living in a concave sphere:

    1. The Tamarac mines mystery

    In the fall of 1901 J.B. Watson, Chief Engineer at the Tamarack copper mine (S. of Calumet, Mich.) suspended 4250 foot long plumb lines down mine shafts. Measurements showed that the plumb lines were farther apart at the bottom than at the top, contrary to expectations.

    2. The Rectilineator experiment

    Invented by the geodesist (Earth surveyor) Ulysses Grant Morrow who was a member of the Koreshan Unity headed by Cyrus Teed. Both Teed and Morrow wrote the book Cellular Cosmogony, claiming that we live inside a concave Earth. To verify these claims Morrow made a simple invention called the rectilineator.

    The details of the Rectilineator experiment are involved, but the basic idea is to run a perfectly horizontal structure over a long distance along a beach and measure the difference between the structure and the waterline.

    The only fault with this experiment is that it is over 100 years old and has never been publicly repeated since, which doesn’t make it 100% conclusive, but very close. Does the Rectilineator show a concave Earth? Extremely likely.

    Read more here: http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory

    As I understand it there have also been numerous experiments conducted that show the Earth is not moving and is at the center of the known universe.

    To understand this theory you have to suspend disbelief as another foundation of the claim is that light is curved over a long distance which is why boats seem to disappear below the horizon when the theory suggests that they should appear to rise above it.

    I’ve seen some videos where guys have done experiments that prove that light does indeed bend suggesting that the theory is accurate and modern science is dead wrong about the nature of light.

    There is also of course the famous Michelson Morley that proves the ether theory, that was overlooked in favor of Jew Einstein’s theories that claim there is no ether. Many scientists believe this was a grievous error and that Jew Einstein was wrong, but the establishment latched onto Einstein and the rest is history.

    This guy has done some excellent videos on the concave theory, but has some questionable antics that taint the theory – one of those who claims to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

    That said, his videos are excellent and illustrate the concepts of the theory.

    A LINE HAS BEEN DRAWN! – The Rectilineator Documentary

    This next guy has also done some solid videos on Concave Earth theory.

    Is The Earth Concave or Convex? – Intriguing Proofs & Argumentation

    He has even posted a document on the Bible and the shape of the Earth and it ain’t flat!

    Bible and the shape of Earth
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jiX7eVIr6vte366UQRR2Z-99Zp85APip_Pg6t4IjcyE/edit

  35. HB says:

    Checkmate atheists, Freemasons, J EWs and evolutionists. This book/site proves that heliocentrism is just a lie invented by Satan to explain away God.
    If the earth revolves around the Sun just like any other planet that means it’s not really that special, which contradicts what the Bible describes. Here’s the scientific proof that the Earth is the center of the universe, and that all the stars and planets revolve around it – just like the Catholic Church said hundreds of years ago:

    http://galileowaswrong.blogspot.com/

    • melgibstein says:

      what is your goal with this? If you think Im going to side with the Catholic church because of your moronic theory you’re dumber than I even thought. The Catholic church was not the apostles or Jesus. You dumb Irish turd, the church was the biggest enemy of Britain and the Irish there ever was outside the Jews, no doubt who got inside the Catholic church right from the beginning making so called Christianity universal. You came here to disrupt as you always do. Time for you to go back to John Friend corner.

      • bharford says:

        Can Ray admit that scripture lies about the flat earth? It’s a legit question. Is scripture wrong? I’ve cited half a dozen verses both old and new. The Catholic Church defended truth but was forced to side alongside Galileo and freemasonry. Mel, CI adherents have done nothing. They haven’t expelled Jewry once let alone 109 times. They haven’t confiscated their ill gotten wealth, forbid them professions like medicine and education and segregate them in ghettos. Only Catholics have done such things, same as defending Eurooe via the Unquisition and Crusades. I take it you’ve not read Willuam Cobbett either. He wrote all about Catholic England but was far better off perhaps the happiest nation ever prior to the Protestant reformation. There are truths to CI and the bible as it relates to our faith, but the bible alone does not save. And it was The Catholic Church that gave all of us the bible codified it and assembled it under the guidance of the Holy Ghost. Christ spoke clearly about building My Church to Peter. This rock my church b there is no plural. If you wish to debate ecclesia I’m happy to do so as well. You will lose. Your understanding is it based on scripture or tradition. It is anathema

  36. melgibstein says:

    definition of to blaspheme-
    verb (used without object), blasphemed, blaspheming.
    3.
    to speak irreverently of God or sacred things; utter impieties.

    Zion-
    a hill in Jerusalem, on which the Temple was built: used to symbolize the city itself, esp. as a religious or spiritual center, a sacred or holy place.Who is it holy for, Jews? No it is holy for Israel (all the 12 tribes) so no matter if you use it for the Jews thinking Zion was for Jews or for any reason whatsoever than the original definition it is deliberate blasphemy and all of these pastors are doing it.

    To use this word Zion or Zionist for any other definition is blasphemy. It is destruction of a sacred place.

    It is the final gathering place for all Israelites.NOT JEWS. Even CI pastors cant figure this one out apparently.

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