The Phoenician Connection

Contrary to the genius professor MacDonald and the Doctor Duke that White people hatched in Europe is nothing more than Jewish hogwash and I have the proof for you right here. This hogwash comes from the same people who broadcast over the Rense Radio Network who once told me I wasn’t allowed to use the word “Jew” over the air and to use the word “Zionist”. You see the word Zionism connects Jews who had no ancestry to the Middle East to the Zion of the Old Testament. They must keep that Jewish fable alive and well. Duke says the word “Jew” is a trigger word that turns people off. So I guess we all have to go along with this wild goose chase of theirs and throw out truth altogether to appease dupes and Jews. Don’t include me.

First I ask you to go to Wikipedia and look up Celtic Tribes. You can then double check all the information elsewhere, some things just can’t be written without any truth because then nobody would check out Wikipedia at all. We do know Wikipedia does have truthful information and often incorrect information, but this is undeniable and I give you these links because it is easier for you to get started.

The Celtic tribes listed are not all the Celtic tribes because you would have to name hundreds of Celtic tribes because they all come from the same people. What you should start with is “The Illyrian Tribe” listed here-  Find the Illyrians and you will be directed here-  Here we can see the Greek connections to Cadmus, Illyrius was the son of Cadmus and Harmonia . While you are there follow the lineage of Dardanus, but to keep it simple let’s stick with Cadmus at this time.

Illyrians in Greek mythology

Illyrius and siblings.

In Greek mythology, Illyrius was the son of Cadmus and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[12] Illyrius had multiple sons (Encheleus, Autarieus, Dardanus, Maedus, Taulas and Perrhaebus) and daughters (Partho, Daortho, Dassaro and others). From these, sprang the Taulantii, Parthini, Dardani, Enchelaeae, Autariates, Dassaretae and the Daors. Autareius had a son Pannonius or Paeon and these had sons Scordiscus and Triballus.[2] A later version of it is having as parents Polyphemus and Galatea that give birth to Celtus, Galas, and Illyrius.[13] The second myth could stem perhaps from the similarities to Celts and Gauls.

This shows that the Gaul’s of Anatolia were the same lineage as the people who become known as the Celts. Same people, same lineage same blood lines.

Now let’s go back to Cadmus-


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Cadmus or Kadmos (Ancient Greek: Κάδμος), in Greek mythology was a Phoenician prince,[1] the son of king Agenor and queen Telephassa of Tyre and the brother of Phoenix, Cilix and Europa. He was originally sent by his royal parents to seek out and escort his sister Europa back to Tyre after she was abducted from the shores of Phoenicia by Zeus.[2] Cadmus founded the Greek city of Thebes, the acropolis of which was originally named Cadmeia in his honor.

Cadmus was credited by the ancient Greeks (Herodotus[3] is an example) with introducing the original Alphabet or Phoenician alphabet — phoinikeia grammata, “Phoenician letters”—to the Greeks, who adapted it to form their Greek alphabet. Herodotus estimates that Cadmus lived sixteen hundred years before his time, or around 2000 BC.[4] Herodotus had seen and described the Cadmean writing in the temple of Apollo at Thebes engraved on certain tripods. He estimated those tripods to date back to the time of Laius the great-grandson of Cadmus.[5] On one of the tripods there was this inscription in Cadmean writing, which as he attested, resembled Ionian letters: Ἀμφιτρύων μ᾽ ἀνέθηκ᾽ ἐνάρων ἀπὸ Τηλεβοάων (“Amphitryon dedicated me [don’t forget]the spoils of [the battle of] Teleboae.”).

Though later Greeks like Herodotus dated Cadmus’s role in the founding myth of Thebes to well before the Trojan War (or, in modern terms, during the Aegean Bronze Age), this chronology conflicts with most of what is now known or thought to be known about the origins and spread of both the Phoenician and Greek alphabets. While a Phoenician origin for the Greek alphabet is certain, the earliest Greek inscriptions match Phoenician letter forms from the late 9th or 8th centuries BC—and, in any case, the Phoenician alphabet properly speaking wasn’t developed until around 1050 BC (or after the Bronze Age collapse). The Homeric picture of the Mycenaean age betrays extremely little awareness of writing, possibly reflecting the loss during the Dark Age of the earlier Linear B script. Indeed the only Homeric reference to writing[6] was in the phrase “γράμματα λυγρά”, grámmata lygrá, literally “uneducated”, when referring to the Bellerophontic letter. (According to Walter Burkert in The Orientalizing Revolution, literacy explodes within a few decades after 750 BC: “The earliest Greek letters recognized to date originate in Naxos, Ischia, Athens, and Euboea, and appear around or a little before 750”.[7]) Linear B tablets have been found in abundance at Thebes, which might lead one to speculate that the legend of Cadmus as bringer of the alphabet could reflect earlier traditions about the origins of Linear B writing in Greece (as Frederick Ahl speculated in 1967[8]). But such a suggestion, however attractive, is by no means a certain conclusion in light of currently available evidence. The connection between the name of Cadmus and the historical origins of either the Linear B script or the later Phoenician alphabet, if any, remains elusive. However, in modern day Lebanon, Cadmus is still revered and celebrated as the ‘carrier of the letter’ to the world.

According to Greek myth, Cadmus’s descendants ruled at Thebes on and off for several generations, including the time of the Trojan War.

Who was Cadmus? He was a Phonecian prince. He was the son of a Phoenician king? Where was Cadmus’ father the king? Tyre is modern day Lebanon. Is Lebanon in the Middle East? Do Celts come from the Middle East? Cadmea was named after Cadmus (Thebes) and considered the most ancient Greek city. Cadmus was from Tyre (Lebanon today). So I ask, “Did the Phoenicians not come first from the Middle East?” I could use the word Celts or Galatians, Gauls, Illyrians, the Irish, the English, the Germans, etc. They are all the same folks (or used to be).

thebesI’m not a professor and I figured this out on my own. Of course the Doctors and the Professors will continue to spread their BS or they wouldn’t try to be leading you down the path of Jewish fables. If they were of the truth they would have their phones wide open to it.

MacDonald and Duke want you to believe White Europeans were “hunter gatherers” dragging their knuckles across Europe searching for squirrels to eat and founded places like Ireland by walking across the ice. You have to ask if these so called white leaders are in it to destroy White History and to bury the truth rather than give it. It can’t be overlooked. If you place yourself in a position of trust let yourself be challenged or you are nothing but shills working for the other side. And I think that’s exactly what they are doing.

I suggest you follow the lineages of the Parthians, the Medes, Milesians and all people’s that lived in the Middle East and you will see Whites were all over it for thousands of years. To deny it is not ignorance it is deliberate deception.

A little more on the Croats and Serbs who later inhabited the area (more White folk from guess where Dr Duke and Professor MacDonald? White Iran. It’s in the Middle East in case you don’t know.

Who exactly were the Serbs and the Croats? Scholars have long been aware that the name ‘Croat’ (Hrvat) is not a Slav word. It is taught to be the same as and Iranian name, Choroatos, found in inscriptions on the tombstones near the Greek town of Tanais on the lower Don, in southern Russia. The whole region north of the Black Sea was inhabited in the early centuries AD by a mixture of tribes which included Slavs and Sarmatians: the latter ware Iranian nomads who had passed westwards round the northern side of the Caucasus in the second century BC. The Sarmatians gained political dominance over the other tribes, and it seems likely that some of the Slav tribes acquired and Iranian- speaking ruling elite [13]. One theory connects Hrvat and Choroatos with the word hu-urvatha, which means ‘friend’ in the language of Alans (who were part of the Sarmatian grouping of Iranian tribes at this time) [14]. Another theory proposes that the root of the name ‘Serb’, serv (slave, servant) become charv in Iranian, and together with the suffix-at this gave rise to Choroatos and Hrvat [15]. What is clear is that he Serbs and the Croats had a similar and connected history from the earliest times: Ptolemy, writing in the 2nd century AD, also located the Serboi among the Sarmatian tribes in the north of the Caucasus. Most scholars believe that the Serbs and the Croats were Slavic tribes with Iranian ruling castes, or that they were originally Iranian tribes which had acquired Slavic subjects [16]. By the early seventh century both tribes have established kingdoms in central Europe: ‘White Croatia’, which covered the part of the modern southern Poland, and ‘White Serbia’ in the modern Czech lands. It was from then that they have came to western Balkans.

They came later and they werent dark skinned Arabs or Jews.

Who are the Sarmatians?

Like the Scythians, Sarmatians were of a Caucasoid appearance, and before the arrival of the Huns (4th century AD) it is thought that few had Asiatic or Turco-Mongol features.[citation needed] Sarmatian noblemen often reached 1.70-1.80m (5ft 7ins-5ft 11ins) as measured from skeletons, and they had sturdy bones, long hair and beards.[citation needed]

The Alans who were a group of Sarmatian tribes according to the Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus “Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty, their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are frighteningly fierce”.[6]

Strabo[13] mentions the Sarmatians in a number of places, never saying very much about them. He uses both Sarmatai and Sauromatai, but never together, and never suggesting that they are different peoples. He often pairs Sarmatians and Scythians in reference to a series of ethnic names, never stating which is which, as though Sarmatian or Scythian could apply equally to them all.[14]

In Strabo, the Sarmatians extend from above the Danube eastward to the Volga, and from north of the Dnepr into the Caucasus, where, he says, they are called Caucasii like everyone else there. This statement indicates that the Alans already had a home in the Caucasus, without waiting for the Huns to push them there.

Even more significantly, he points to a Celtic admixture in the region of the Basternae, who, he says, are of Germanic origin. The Celtic Boii, Scordisci and Taurisci are there. A fourth ethnic element being melted in are the Thracians (7.3.2). Moreover, the peoples toward the north are Keltoskythai, “Celtic Scythians” (11.6.2).

Strabo also portrays the peoples of the region as being nomadic, or Hamaksoikoi, “wagon-dwellers” and Galaktophagoi, “milk-eaters” referring, no doubt, to the universal koumiss eaten in historical times. The wagons were used for porting tents made of felt, which must have been the yurts used universally by Asian nomads.

Pliny the Elder writes (4.12.79-81):

From this point (the mouth of the Danube) all the races in general are Scythian, though various sections have occupied the lands adjacent to the coast, in one place the Getae … at another the Sarmatae … Agrippa describes the whole of this area from the Danube to the sea … as far as the river Vistula in the direction of the Sarmatian desert … The name of the Scythians has spread in every direction, as far as the Sarmatae and the Germans, but this old designation has not continued for any except the most outlying sections ….

According to Pliny, Scythian rule once extended as far as Germany. Jordanes supports this hypothesis by telling us on the one hand that he was familiar with the Geography of Ptolemy, which includes the entire Balto-Slavic territory in Sarmatia,[citation needed] and on the other that this same region was Scythia. By “Sarmatia”, Jordanes means only the Aryan territory. The Sarmatians were, therefore, a sub-group of the broader Scythian peoples.

TacitusDe Origine et situ Germanorum speaks of “mutual fear” between Germanic peoples and Sarmatians:   BINGO! How about that Strabo?

and no, there was no such thing as Khazars back then either.


Who are the Slavs? You better soak this in first. It’s a good movie for Mel Gibson to make, although he would probably give them hooked noses too.

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69 Responses to The Phoenician Connection

  1. mighty goy says:

    I met many Christian Lebanese (Phoenician descendants) and they’re White, just look Ralph Nader!

    • melgibstein says:

      What was that land “Lebanon” called in the time of Jesus? It was considered part of Phoenicia (part is the key word here) In other words they were also in Europe (which they named).
      Acts 11; 19

      19 Now those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews (Look up Jew in Strongs and it isnt Khazars or Judeans). 20 Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus. 21 The Lord’s hand was with them, and a great number of people believed and turned to the Lord.
      The entire area was WHITE in those days except for the known mixed tribes. Herod was one of those mixed tribes who bamboozled his bamboozled Roman officials who were Celts.
      Some of them are still bamboozled today, but better to be bamboozled than a bastardized Jew.

      ~The “good news” wasnt that some “Jew” came for everyone. The “good news” was that their messiah had come and that he came for only one people. Sorry if that hurts people, but its true. Im not going to carry around a lie for someone to be fooled over.

      If I made a birthday card list for my friend to hand out and my friend gave some of those cards to my enemies or people I didnt even know I would have to tell them at the door I never invited them and it was a mistake. That is exactly what a Jew will do if you befriend them.

      Solomons temple was built from the cedars of Lebanon- tens of thousands of Israelites (no two houses yet) were sent to Lebanon for this wood. Why did Solomon get along so well with the Phoenicians? Dont so called Jews hate everybody? The truth is the Jews had nothing to do with that temple- they were selling rags on the streets in those days too.

  2. melgibstein says:

    The Phoenicians are the Europeans- plain and simple. They were mining copper out of the Great Lakes two thousand years or more before the Jew Columbus ever dreamed of America.

    Jesus in Lebanon

    Now if Jesus was in the heart of Phoenicia (Tyre) do you think he may have known of Ireland, Britain, Tarsus, etc from the greatest seafaring people that ever lived?

  3. melgibstein says:

    Was Heracles Greek? Seems like an easy question, but it is a trick question. The Phoenicians became the Greeks as they became the Irish, Germans, French, etc. and here we can see they were also the Egyptians at one time.

    Heracles was first a Phoenician and then considered Greek and Im sure when the Milesians left Iberia (or the name they used for Spain at that time) to New Iberia or Inis Fail or Ivernia or Ireland from the tower of Hercules they eventually would say Hercules was Scottish too (because land mass isnt blood). Jews love to trick people in that arena and its an area all White people need to vomit out of their speech. Land mass isnt a blood line and Whites had better put their blood together as one people and forget the land beneath them for awhile (including Europe). Australia isnt Europe, South Africa isnt Europe and America isnt Europe. If you want to pick a land mass where Whites are from originally- that would be the Middle East and North Africa (Africanus).

    • Hercule says:

      Hercule was Greek

      • melgibstein says:

        Who is Hercule? Im havining an egg Mcmuh. Believe it or not but Hercules is connected to all white people, not just Greeks. The Scythians also claim him as an ancestor as do the Phoenicians. Not the best source, but here is wikijewpedia

        Near the eastern shore of the island of Gades/Gadeira (modern Cádiz, just beyond the strait) Strabo describes[8] the westernmost temple of Tyrian Heracles, the god with whom Greeks associated the Phoenician and Punic Melqart, by interpretatio graeca. Strabo notes[9] that the two bronze pillars within the temple, each eight cubits high, were widely proclaimed to be the true Pillars of Hercules by many who had visited the place and had sacrificed to Heracles there. But Strabo believes the account to be fraudulent, in part noting that the inscriptions on those pillars mentioned nothing about Heracles, speaking only of the expenses incurred by the Phoenicians in their making. The columns of the Melqart temple at Tyre were also of religious significance.

        Ever heard the name McInTyre? It means son of the city (Tyre). Wolf in Gaelic is Mac tire (they claim it means son of the country, Ireland). Mel quart means “king of the city”, Hercules and or the name Hyrcanus means “wolf” Word Origin and History for Hyrcania

        ancient region southeast of the Caspian Sea, from Greek Hyrkania, said to be from an Indo-European *verkana “country of wolves” [Zonn, I., et al., “The Caspian Sea Encyclopedia,” 2010]

        Its a word game, letters changed just like w and v, ph and f…different alphabets, different people of the same white race with different dialects of the same language separated by sea. We didnt have trains or jets, people came by the boat load. Words changed. Where did the H come from? Looks like two pillars to me. Who gave the Greeks their alphabet? The Phoenicians.

        Look up the history of the Scythians you will find Hercules. Greeks called him Heracles. Check out Hera on wiki holding a pomegranate (means Phoenician grenade)

        Phoenicians and Greeks claim to descend from Zeus too, look up Cadmus. Truth is all white people had the same heroes at one time and gradually grew apart. I cant put every piece of evidence under your nose and believe you will follow along, especially with a comment like “Hercule was a Greek”. I suggest you first learn how to make a statement and then back it up.

        Proving the fact that Phoenicians were white people is HUGE proving the lies of the demon Jews. It puts their BS right back where it belongs, in Hades or actually Hell (Hades was never for Jews, Hell was).

  4. I don’t get the last couple of paragraphs. I suppose i an not informed enough to draw my own conclusion.

    • melgibstein says:

      You will have to be a bit more specific. Is it a word definition? Im not informed enough to draw my own conclusion now either.

      • Where do the current nationalities of Europe directly relate to these preceding peoples? I thought Sarmatians may have been Aryan in the article but I read that their land extended to the German further down in the article. This is quite unclear for someone with little classical and pre-classical historical background knowledge, particularly revisionist historical background knowledge. Who are the Slavs? Are they considered one of the lost tribes? Are they considered Scythians that were resident in the Caucuses? And what do you mean that Mel Gibson would give them hooked noses too? Jew hooked noses or English hooked noses? As well, do you actually consider Mel Gibson to be an authentic believer or a subverter? In the Passion, we ‘got’ to see Christ whipped for a full hour. There is only one group of people who would enjoy that. The rabbis in the movie looked like Yorkshiremen or such. The bleating of the jews could have been cover for this thinly veiled black celebration. They are known to do things like this…

      • melgibstein says:

        The Slavs were the Japhethites, same people who were in the Caucus area that mixed in with the Turko Mongolians and later with the Judean Sephardic Jews (the mixed masses of Judea). The Ashkenazi’s look more white because they have more white in them to make them twice the diabolical children of you know who. Not all Slavs mixed with Jews or Turks. Many mixed back in with whites and exactly who they were, just a different lineage of whites. Japheth shall live in the tents of Shem and if we all come from Noah like the Judeos say then we all come from the Middle East any way you dice it, although I dont believe we ALL come from the Middle East, but whites most certainly do. Nobody in the main stream will ever admit to it because they will lose their cushy Jew jobs.

        Im one of the few that thinks Gibson is a fraud and has Jewish blood. There are too many reasons to list why, but one big one is that he gave Jesus a hooked nose on a white person. Ashkenazi’s must have loved that one. As I said too many reasons to list and his movies are never even the closest bit acurate whether by words or by pictures. As he said in The Passion “pictures speak louder than words”. Yes he was right on that when he gave Jesus a hook.

        If I was God Id throw him to hell for that alone!

        Jews have been following us everywhere on earth and claim they are supposed to remain a separate people- they have people so bamboozled its comical in a way and enough to make you cry.

  5. I have heard the Japeth genealogical attribution for the Slavs before, although I think it was at christogenea. I have been reading your blog for at least a year now and I can’t recall if you made the distinction here. I wanted to discover theological differences within CI. You could saying I am exploring it. One thing that I am trying to hurdle is that the ancient to modern genealogical relationships are not systematically drawn. In the CI writings I’ve read so far these relationships are simply declared, as if by conjecture. I understand there aren’t a whole lot of swindled resources to work with though and I appreciate the erudite scholarship; although, again, it’s difficult to follow sans a progressive, or step-wise elaboration of the genealogy of true israel and associated people.

    Re Gibson, as soon as I am provided a valid reason to be skeptical, I remain so. How about his father?

    • melgibstein says:

      Its conjecture because nobody will refute it openly. Its also conjecture that Jews controlled the slave trade. There is only one conjecture in this world and that is your own. If you’re waiting for Barry Sheck to get the DNA samples forget it. It is not conjecture in my opinion it is truth. My spirit determines what truth is not jews and sheep. Thats what its there for. You can simply tell me what the truth really is and go from there. Are you claiming the Phoenicians werent white, didnt live in Tyre?

      Do the research and you will see the other side is far worse than conjecture. Try asking a scool teacher who controls the money system or the media (watch them conject all day long). I simply took you to the Phoenicians, take it from there on your own. Of course you can trust David Duke who doesnt know the Bible from a bagel with all his red carpet king music. He is running for “white leader” and he cant take white phone calls. Its bloody sickening!

      Gibsons father thinks Jesus was a Jew. He doesnt know the word discrepancies in the Bible such as the word “Jew”, he only focuses on Catholic doctrine- it’s a straw man. Follow Hutton to the new universalist Catholic church- hogwash! It’s Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin.

  6. melgibstein says:

    Re Gibson, as soon as I am provided a valid reason to be skeptical, I remain so. How about his father?

    I am not here to convince you, but if you think Mel Gibson is an anti so called semite take into account that his agent was Rahm Emanuels brother, he had an Israeli bodyguard, hung out with Jews like Billy Crystal, Downey, Sean Penn, , every one of his costars were yentas, he was being stalked by an Arabic papparazi guy, took the jewess Britney Spears to Costa Rica, for God sakes the guy is so surrounded by Jews its insane.
    Why didnt he give Mary Magdelene a hooked nose? Instead he used a Jewish Italian girl, Bertalucci (who is married to a Jew) and incorporated these Jews (also Mary) into the movie as if Ashkenazi’s and Italian ghetto trash were once the lineage of Jesus.

    If you want to trust that- go right on. I am here to help the people who can figure and want to figure out things on their own. I had to and everyone I know that knows the truth had to. Thats just how it is. If you want the evidence you have to prove me wrong, but you have a lot of work to do. And you better have the guts to stand by it (not like Melvin Gibson).

  7. Chris says:

    Ancient Americans Wrote in Hebrew

    • melgibstein says:

      What Glenn Schmekel wont say is “Jews arent Hebrews” and these writings were not written by Jews because Jews or Judahites have no history of seamanship without the other tribes that just seemed to drop off the map. Where did the Phoenicians go? Who were the Phoenicians? Those should be the questions and then where did the apostles go to seek the exiled sheep of Israel? They went straight to the Phoenicians or Celts or pick any number of tribe names they took.

      Jews know, but they aint talking. Its why they run the media to fill our heads full of BS movies, cotton candy and milk duds.

      Do a search on the Celts of Beaver Island Michigan, yet we are taught in the Jew schools that the Jew Columbus discovered America the same year they were booted out of Iberia or Spain (where the Celts came from).

      Jews are “The Thing”. They latch on to anything that will alow them to.

      • Chris says:

        I’m with you “Mel” that’s why I posted it here. Glen Beckstein would never comes out and say Jews aren’t Hebrews

      • melgibstein says:

        They needed Jewish Rabbi’s nearby to prove it was Hebrew. as if they are the only source or even a legitimate source to trust.

  8. Ray Zerwitt says:

    They weren’t just at the great lakes, but in New Mexico in 800 BC too. See: The Los Lunas stone. It’s the 10 commandments, written in that pheonicio-greek you were talking about. Nobody knew what the writing was until Barry Fell identified it. I have recent pictures of it and the stinkin jews have already been there defiling it. Willie Martin has the best info about that, that I’ve seen yet.

    Speaking of Barry Fell, and casting pearls before swine, who wrote “America BC”, his biggest complaint was about those very same defacers. He found celtic forts and villages in New England. As soon as he told of what he found, they would be out there in a matter of days corrupting the archaeological evidence. These places were over some rivers and through some woods. You could be right in the middle of one and not know it, as the farmers were for hundreds of years. Yet, before Barry Fell could get back to it himself, the usual suspects had already been there and trashed it. Not the work of drunken teenagers. They came from the universities.

  9. Ray Zerwitt says:

    lol Kim Kardashian win the nobel prize in physics… It’s not that bad, it’s WORSE.

  10. melgibstein says:

    Glad to know this particular thread is getting so much attention. Do you know why folks? Jews are scared sh$$less of it thats why. The Phoenicians are the key to history and Im on it like a chemtrail on a productive white city.

    • Great thread 🙂

      Not only the Canaanites/Phoenicians were probably one of the most secretive and mysterious people of the past with great achievements on all fronts: Religion, Theology, Philiosophy, Mathematics, Astronomy, etc, but were undoubtedly the ancestors of Yāwshu (Jesus in Phoenician/Aramaic) himself and thus Christianity is not but a continuity of the Phoenician religious thoughts & theology. The biggest mistake ever committed in the history of mankind is to relate Christianity to Judaism. Christianity has nothing to do with Judaism. The New Testament is not a continuity of the Old Testament. Both Testaments contradict each other enormously.

      It has been all revealed in «Jesus the Phoenician».

      Could it be possible that Jesus was not Jewish? What would that mean to the faithful? Jesus the Phoenician exposes, among other unprecedented certitudes, the origin of the Jewish faith and the true hidden identity of Jesus Christ.

      Though the author claims no theological degree, as a Christian and a writer he has read and researched extensively and compiled a sound, compelling argument that the traditionally accepted story of Jesus the Jew, though largely undisputed by the faithful in favor of the biblical version, is actually an impossibility. By investigating the etymology of the name, Jesus, other questions arise regarding the incompatibility between the Great Annunciation and traditional Jewish practices, as well as the true lineage of the family of the Messiah. Then, by examining the lives of the family, friends, and Disciples of Jesus, the circumstances of Jesus’ birth are challenged, establishing which Bethlehem the child savior was born in and substantiating the origins—Galilean or Jewish—of Jesus and his Disciples. Furthermore, based on a new understanding of the true origins of Jesus and his apostles, Jesus the Phoenician reveals the truth about Jesus by showing the many holes in the traditional Jewish and biblical history that point to Jesus having been a Jew. And, finally, the reader is asked to consider the validity of the typically dismissed sources, the Apocrypha, the ex-biblical texts that suggest and support the theory of Jesus the Phoenician.

      By investigating and analyzing the Old and New Testaments, as well as numerous other books, Apocrypha, and scholarly sources, Jesus the Phoenician systematically debunks the traditionally accepted Jewish story of Jesus and synthesizes a groundbreaking explanation for this historical and theological blunder. By delving into the history of the Canaano-Phoenicians and disproving the accuracy of the established story of Jesus Christ, Jesus the Phoenician begs the reader to think outside of biblical tradition and to consider, as have scholars, theologians, and writers throughout history, the proof herein that denies the identity of Jesus the Jew.

      Check out this interview:

      Check out the book trailer:

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      • melgibstein says:

        Phoenicians came out of Egypt from the land of Punt on the Red Sea. There has been all kinds of misinformation about the Phoenicians, but one thing is for sure, they were white people. The Phoenicians were not Canaanites although they did inhabit the land of Canaan. They inhabited Tyre, Sidon and all of the land of Canaan, so too did the Israelites coincidentally who were not Canaanites by race either. People get turned upside down when they speak of people as being places. Phoenicians were not a race of people they were named different things in different places all over the West and East. Look at Phoenician statues, Phoenician sculptures of Hannibal, etc. The true Israelites became Baal worshipers, that didnt make them Canaanites biologically no more than me taking up Buddhism would make me ( I wont say Asian because white people were once also Asians too) Chinese or Japanese. Today we have words like Asian or Hispanic as races….if that were true than white people would be both of them because they were the originals. Jesus was not a Jew, this however is true, but Jesus was of the biological lineage of Judah and Jews are not. What happened to the Israelites? Jews came back to Judah the landmass from Babylon, but Israelites never came out of captivity? They most certainly did.

        I have nothing against you Lebanese, you are not Jews and do not have the Jew mentality, but the truth is the truth. I cannot offend the truth even if it offends you. I can listen to all the interviews in the world but if I cannot interject what good is it? The Phoenicians were all over Europe and the only ones out the gates of Hercules who they claimed was their father. Cadmus was a Phoenician whose lineage goes directly into Ireland through Iberia (who Andrew and John went directly to). Jesus himself went into Phoenicia or Lebanon too without a doubt, but if he went to Istanbul, Turkey (Constantinople) in those days would it mean he went to the same people in those days? If we are going to talk about true history lets first bring all the facts into the equation. We are either with the truth all the way or we are not with it at all. Just dont blame me for the lies Jews have perpetrated or Jews win. Neither of us benefit from that.

        Phoenicians are the key to true history because once we figure out they were the descendants of true Israelites and look nothing like Jews we have to ask what Jews really are. We already know they are little bit of everything, the Phoenicians may have had some race mixing along the way no doubt, but white people have to stay white to be white if you know what I mean.

        I have not seen any evidence that the Phoenicians called themselves Phoenicians, Greeks called them Phoenicians from 1. showing blood in the face. or 2. After their purple color that goes all the way back to Hercules. Romans called them Poeni and Carthaginians. Venetian or Venice comes from the word Phoenician as do the names Fiona, Bianca, Vienna, Finland……the words are endless. This Phoenician language was 100% pure Shemitic so how can white people be antisemitic again? Certainly not by language and certainly not by pure lineage because white people are both (Jews are not, especially Ashkenazis that named themselves after the lineage of Gomer through Japheth). Get me on the show with your best man and lets see what happens.

        Dont forget there were Canaanites all over the land of Canaan, even in Judea so just because there were also Canaanites in Phoenicia or Lebanon doesnt mean they were all biological Canaanites. These Phoenicians also had knowledge that came out of Egypt, knowledge that no one else had. Nobody else had the knowledge they had at the time in Astronomy, Mathematics, Engineering etc. Nobody even close. We could get into the Egyptian subject and if the Egyptians were white too, but thats a whole new subject and not too hard to prove.

        The Tyrrhenians (Attic Greek: Τυρρηνοί Turrhēnoi) or Tyrsenians (Ionic: Τυρσηνοί Tursēnoi; Doric: Τυρσανοί Tursānoi[1]) is an exonym used by Greek authors to refer to a non-Greek people. They were not Greeks but the gave the Greeks their alphabet, also gave the Romans everything they knew (they were the same people). Phoenicians didnt stay Phoenician just like I didnt stay a New Yorker.

        Tyrrhennians are linked to Carthaginians by Strabo. Sometimes words tell the tales. I’d be willing to bet Trent or Trrrrento in Italian also comes from the word Tyre (in Tyrol, Northern Italy). Odd how the Council of Trent never mentioned it. Of course then we are actually getting into some German too which is odd why Germany had the Phoenician/Egyptian winged orb and the Phoenician swastika. Hannibal took elephants through that area and sacked Rome or at the least that time everything up to it. Is there a connection? I’d say there is. Guess whose side the Tyhrennians and or Etruscans were on? The Gauls/Celts/Phoenicians against Rome, they all eventually lost, but we lost to ourselves.

        One mystery you may take into consideration is Phoenicians were known as Semitic or Shemitic people. To be a Semite or Shemite you had to have pure biological bloodlines through Shem as Jesus himself (also a Shemite). So Shem was a white man or the Bible is false because they show you and tell you what it means to be of Shem. Of course Shem couldnt reproduce himself so either Shemites are everyone or just one people (take your pick, but I assure you it isnt everyone because we know Cain was not of the same lineage as Shem right out of the shoot. Jews would have you believe whites are the pure lineage of Cain, but thats just a bit too ridiculous, no it’s the other way around and makes perfect sense, a little too perfect for the masses. So if you say Phoenicians were Canaanites and Shemites or Shemitic……..well your wires are crossed. Jesus didnt come for the Canaanites that is certain, he came but for the “put away” House of Israel (all 12 tribes) through grace (forgiveness) and as the Redeemer to them. Gentiles are Israelites and Phoenicians were Israelites (maybe not all of them, but certainly the ones who were in Europe before anyone else and still are today). Europe as you know was named after a Phoenician. All the great doctors working for the ADL White Movement seem to always forget that lil tidbit. Of course there are a million others all being quashed for their jew masters. Jews dont want Israel to exist in the classic sense not the jew sense nor Phoenicians oddly enough, but they were there and still are (they moved out to the West Side like the Jeffersons went to the East).

        Phoenicians were all over the Med during the time of the Apostles but so called Phoenicians were not mentioned in any other places even though they were obviously in Asia Minor (Melitus or elsewhere), Spain or Iberia, Scythia, Pontus (from the word Phoenicia) Greece, Kyprus or Cyprus, etc. when they were in all those places, they werent confined to Carthage or Phoenicia, they were sea people, yet no mention of them (because Phoenicians werent what they called themselves). They didnt refer to their race by their geographical locations just as you and I wouldnt being of different biological lineages. It is very likely that the so called Phoenicians took the apostles where they were going, it certainly wasnt the Romans or the Jews who taxi’d them. They were Phoenicians themselves (the apostles) if Phoenicians were called what they were biologically. The apostles sought the House of Israel and for that reason alone we know they existed….but we dont want to talk about them or the Phoenicians today coincidentally. Odd that! In whose interest is that? I’ll give you a hint, they have big noses and fat lower lips.

      • EDOMS THORN says:

        I have been holding back from commenting on this post because I do not remember where I saw what I wanted to present, (I think from Doctor True Ott “The Story Behind the Story”). But from my research and observations concerning EDOM, EDOM are the creators and/or INFILTRATORS of many empires going back to NIMROD! The research has led me to understand that EDOM was in the establishment of the Greek and Roman empires. It fits EDOM characteristics’ and EDOM learned HOW to destroy Nations and empires, and is in the process of establishing the New World Order! Check out this site I found while I was DEEP in the RABBI HOLE >>> Click on …”Every Crime Scene has the Criminals”… Edom-Rome Fingerprints This is the only Muslim source I have found that mentions EDOM. Is EDOM in their Qur’an?

        In my research I found that EDOM may have been the Phoenicians, but as I said I do not remember where I came across that! AS I told you my computer was assassinated and I lost a TON of research!

        SAYING this does not mean that the Romans or Greek are EDOM, it simply means that EDOM is implicated in their establishment. It does fit the pattern of EDOMS behavior.

        EDOM was JACOBS/OUR brother, so he would appear to be WHITE.

        Great post tho. I just wanted to add this here.


  11. melgibstein says:

    Honestly I am not interested in what the Islamists think or what the Mormans think, Edom was in Judea at that time- made up the Pharisees and Sadducees. Jesus most certainly did not go to Phonecia to preach to the Edomites he was a separatist. Again, Canaanites were in Judea and in Phoenicia, the land of Canaan was where the Canaanites lived, but so did the Israelites, the Greeks, the Romans and many others before and after that time (Egyptians, Asyrians- both white).

    Go not but to the House of Israel….doesnt sound like Canaanites or Edomites to me. Phoenicians built Solomons temple and supplied it with all its gold, for what, gefilte?

    Edom was Shemitic, but his wives and children were not. Ishmael was Shemitic but somewhere down the line blood got mixed. When that blood gets mixed they are then mamzers- mamzers cannot enter……..they are no longer Shemites because they have other fathers as well.
    Kings 7:13
    13And king Solomon sent and fetched Hiram out of Tyre. 14He was the son of a widow of the tribe of Naphtali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in brass; and he was filled with wisdom and understanding and skill, to work all works in brass. And he came to king Solomon, and wrought all his work.

    This particular verse is debated whether King Hiram was this Hiram, but the thing is they cant say there were know Israelites in Phoenicia because they without a doubt were and why Jesus went there.

    Heres a jew link………says Jesus went to Phoenicia to preach to the Gentiles- I thought we knew who the Gentiles were?

    There were also Syro Phoenicians who were actually Greeks. Greeks are not Phoenicians (two different geological locations and Asyria another), but they are white people who married into the Israelites who were in Phoenicia, Israelites spread into most of the white race with the exception of the Khazars and some Slavs, only God knows, but the true Slavs are our family or tree in its true sense of the words.

    Egypt had Hamites who Joseph married into, he wasnt a race mixer either. Hell, just get the proof Phoenicians were not white people…….you wont find it. If Phoenicians werent white then they made the Greeks, the Israelites, the Romans and all of Europe into Canaanites.

    Did Solomon get a Canaanite to build the temple? Ive heard this dispute, but you have to prove to me his (Hiram’s) father was a Canaanite and not a Syro Phoenician or a Syrian or a non Israelite white man of any kind. Israelites or Judah would not have had it- the 2 houses were still together.

  12. melgibstein says:

    I dont recall anyone ever claiming the Punic Wars was Edom against the Romans or Hannibal the Edomite joining with the Celts and Gauls to attack Rome from Iberia…….in fact Dido the Queen of Carthage is alleged to be a daughter of the lineage of David- she killed herself rather than be forced into race mixing. That doesnt sound like an Edomite to me. Edomites will procreate (to use the term lightly) with anything on 2 legs, possibly 3. Israelites were under the cloud and many of them still are. Judah’s kin were already spread throughout Europe and elsewhere with the rest of the Israelites.

    The Edomites were too busy kissing Roman arse.

    Looks like this guy wrote the book “Jesus was a Phoenician” I dont think he will be bock!

  13. melgibstein says:

    What gets me is, how can an Israelite call Jezebel someone who whores after another God if she isnt an Israelite? I see no proof she was not an Israelite- someone prove otherwise please.

    King James Bible
    And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?
    Whoredoms in Hosea 1

    2 The beginning of the word of the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the Lord.

    3 So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim; which conceived, and bare him a son.-end

    A wife of whoredoms- all the Israelites, male and female were considered whores chasing after foreign Gods or lords. You cant commit whoredom in this sense without first being an Israelite.

  14. melgibstein says:

    No, the “Jesus was a Phoenician” author chooses not to debate. Ho hum! And so it gooes…

  15. melgibstein says:

    What did their writing look like?
    A statue inscribed with Phoenician words.
    Phoenician writing is very similar in some ways to the Latin alphabet, because the Latin alphabet was designed, in part, from the Phoenician alphabet. In fact, the Phoenicians are the first known people to use an alphabet. Their writing system had 22 letters, which were all consonants. The reader had to guess at the vowels the author meant to use.

    One Phoenician city, Byblos, is thought to have been a major center for writing, because the city’s name is the origin of the word “book”! Many scribes or professional writers worked in Byblos, and made copies of books there on Egyptian papyrus — an important trade product.

    The Phoenicians, most likely a Semitic people, spoke the Phoenician language. In addition to their many inscriptions, the Phoenicians, contrary to some reports, wrote many books that have not survived. Evangelical Preparation by Eusebius of Caesarea quotes extensively from Philo of Byblos and Sanchuniathon. Furthermore, the Phoenician Punic colonies of North Africa continued to be a source of knowledge about the Phoenicians. Saint Augustine knew at least a smattering of Punic and occasionally uses it to explain cognate words found in Hebrew. The name of his mother, Saint Monica, is said to be of Punic origin as well.

    So I guess this means Saint Augustine was a mixed mongrel Canaanite?

    Augustine developed the concept of the Catholic Church as a spiritual City of God (in a book of the same name), distinct from the material Earthly City.[9] His thoughts profoundly influenced the medieval worldview. Augustine’s City of God was closely identified with the segment of the Church that adhered to the concept of the Trinity as defined by the Council of Nicaea and the Council of Constantinople.[10]

    I dont think the Catholic church is going to like being associated with a Canaanite.

    Scholars believe that Augustine’s ancestors included Berbers, Latins, and Phoenicians.[19] He considered himself to be Punic.

    ` So scholars believe he was a mutt and Augustine himself claimed to be Punic- did they not take his word for it? He certainly has more looks than David Duke and Gabby Giffords. What was he?

    Question is was Augustine a white man and if he wasnt it could have been because he was part Berber even though Berbers at one time were whites. The queen of Carthage (Dido) committed suicide rather than race mix with the Berbers at that time. The question is why would Dido care about race mixing if she was already mixed?

    At about the age of 19, Augustine began an affair with a young woman in Carthage. Possibly because his mother wanted him to marry a person of his class, the woman remained his lover[28] for over thirteen years and gave birth to his son Adeodatus,[29] who was viewed as extremely intelligent by his contemporaries.[30] In 385, Augustine abandoned his lover in order to prepare himself to marry an heiress.[31]

    ~Not a very good Catholic you might say.

    ~Carthage was looooong overrun by Berbers at this time. It appears we have yet another group of people, like the Lebanese who claim to be Phoenicians. Its like the Arabs in Egypt claiming to be the original Egyptians or Blacks in Washington DC claiming to be descendants of Thomas Jefferson.

    Of course the Catholic church had to become universal if it was started by mongrels. Either that or it is more BS to make Augustine into a mongrel and cover up the true history of the Phoenicians.

    ~I would like to expose someone who is claiming to put out expert info on the Phoenicians, a fan of Jordan Maxwell and the like. He has his comments closed off to me because I can prove he or she is deliberately putting out false information. When you dont allow yourself to be corrected you are not of truth.

    Liars cannot even entertain questions because then they have to defend their lies with erroneous information burying themselves even deeper into their own mud.

    The reply to one of my statements:

    Arnold Heeren, German Classicist, stated “In the Greek geographies, for instance, we read of two islands, named Tyrus or Tylos, and Aradus, which boasted that they were the mother country of the Phoenicians, and exhibited relics of Phoenician temples. The people of Tyre in particular have long maintained Persian Gulf origins, and the similarity in the words “Tylos” and “Tyre” has been commented upon.”
    There was a highly lucrative Phoenician trade with Britain for tin, but it was indirect and under the control of the Veneti of Brittany so they never sailed to the Isles.

    Ladies and gentlemen I rest my case because the Veneti are the Phoenicians

    Veneti (Gaul)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about the Veneti of northwestern Gaul. For other peoples called Veneti, see Veneti (disambiguation).
    Veneti coins, 5th-1st century BCE.
    Map of the Gallic people of modern Britanny :
    The Veneti were a seafaring Celtic people who lived in the Brittany peninsula (France), which in Roman times formed part of an area called Armorica.They gave their name to the modern city of Vannes.

    And who did the Veneti fight against? Voila the Romans, what a coincidence! It means “white”, “fair”, “holy”, “red”

    Guess what Irish. French, Britts (original ones), Gauls, Etruscans, Iberians, Celts…you are all Canaanites. You believe that then I have a jewelry shop to sell you on 10th Ave. Red was indeed a word for Edom and also for Adam- to show blood in the face. Did some Canaanites obtain red hair, yesbut it was a trait of the Hebrews not the Jews or Canaanites. Jews have hooked noses and fat lower lips but this is not a trait of Adamites. Canaanites dont name themselves after white people unless they steal the entire words describing white as well as only Jews can possibly do, in fact Jews are not even considered a race at all. Do they check the box white or Jew? They can check all the boxes.

    Venetian/Phoenician, Viena, Fiona, Bianca, Gwynn ( you have to follow how letters changed) like Wolksvagen to Volkswagon.

    Thank you for that tid bit of truth you had no desire to give me or look for yourself. The Phoenicians were just another branch of israelites- period and proving to be a very very important branch indeed.
    Why is there so little history of the Phoenicians? How did they just vanish? Because they never did.

  16. melgibstein says:

    Again, here Phoenicians are called “Semitic” or “Shemitic”. One has to ask why someone would be called Semitic or Shemitic if they were also Canaanites. Ashur or Assyria was Semitic, but once you race mix with a Canaanite you are no longer Semitic. Jews claim to be the only semites even though Shem goes all the way back to Noah. Why would Jews be the only Semites even if they were from Judah which they are not. They may even be of Abraham, but somewhere blood was mixed and strictly forbidden in the Bible.

    The reason why the world does not want to know, see, the true Phoenicians is because they were as pure and white as snow and anyone with a pair of eyes can see Jews are not. So who is the bastard, the Jews or White people? Thats really all it boils down to. Have any of you white people ever hatched a Jew? Do Jews have white babies? Will the true bastard please stand up because one of you is not part of the congregation of YHWH and there is one huge factor involved that should never be overlooked, JEWS LIE!

  17. melgibstein says:

    The Veneti named one of their cities Vannes after themselves. Phoenicians were the originators of wine.

    The name Sven or Van comes from the word “son” or “warrior” which of course Jews had to adopt, yet it appears to have this same root as white or Veneti or Phoenician. “Son” meaning “of us or white people”. Oh so much more to come.

    Looks like Mel Brooks
    The name Svenson or Swinson means “son of son”? No folks I dont think so. These were name of the Normans or Norse Men or North Men from guess where? France or Armorica.

    So here we are at this point…Phoenicians gave us their alphabet, their words, their names (Europe), their wine, their seafaring skills, their architecture and then vanished from the face of the earth? Funny how people just vanish isnt it?

    Ever hear of Port wine? Named after Portugal or Port of Gaul. Arguably the best wine on the earth and again another place where Gauls and Phoenicians inhabited. Of course Jews are there now, wherever we go the jew is sure to follow. They have to to keep up their charade. They even make whiskey now, of course it is mongrelized like everything they touch.

    Tequila was oddly enough started out as a wine. The white Gods of Mexico and South America were the originators of that or you could believe some Mexican discovered wine living in the back woods with Mel Gibson’s Apoclypto pals.

  18. melgibstein says:

    Check out the map on the Phoenicians and wine page

    It looks like they went out past the gates of Hercules and then disappeared right on the coast of the biggest and best wine making places in the world.

    Hosea chapter 2

    8 For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.

    9 Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness.

    10 And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand.

    I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

    12 And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them.

  19. Louis says:

    So here is where i am at,you know about all those round stone structures on Sardinia called Nuraghe(nuragic civilization)i am saying that they are a simple air blast furnace ,smoke stack,the tiny bottom entrance is an air inlet vent, for smelting silver and gold ,copper and the phoenicians ran that business (hired the inhabitants)from that island out of the port Tharros which could be Tharsis.That is the Tyrrhenian sea ,right?I am a mason contractor so i know what a firebox/flue system looks like as most anyone with a fireplace/wood/coal/stove.I am not saying they got the precious metals from there,just that it was a secure spot to run that operation.

    • melgibstein says:

      I’ll be quite honest with you, I have investigated Phoenicians on several Med islands, but never Sardinia for some reason. I will be now. Looks to me in the short time I have looked, the usual suspects seem to be making the claim that these objects were pre Phoenician, they even say pre Roman as if they were both at the same time. Phoenicians were there before the Romans were born. I found a much better Gaelic dictionary, google translate will have one word many times for words like rain, thunder, son, daughter etc. There are several Gaelic translation books and then you have Welsh which is just another form of Gaelic across the sea as Scottish Gaelic is and was. I got that word Macaibh from “son”. Im not sure it was the original word for son and shortened or the plural to son yet, however. Time will tell when you are on the trail.

      They give you one word for what these structures are, but one word isnt going to be the clincher because they dont know who made them so they obviously dont know who named them or what they named them. We do have this though in wiki

      Cultural significance

      There is a similar type of structure which has a corridor or a system of corridors. Some authors consider them somewhat older than the typical nuraghe and probably serving different purposes. The nuraghes were built between the middle of the Bronze Age (18th-15th centuries BCE) and the Late Bronze Age. This clearly rules out any possible cultural correlation with later towers such as Scottish Brochs (dating mainly to the 1st centuries BCE and CE). The claim that the El-Ahwat structures from Israel might be related is strongly contested; those are dated to either the 12th or the 11th century BCE. The only buildings widely accepted as being related to nuraghes are the torri (plural of torre) from Corsica.

      According to Massimo Pallottino, a scholar of Sardinian prehistory and an Etruscologist, the architecture produced by the Nuragic civilization was the most advanced of any in the western Mediterranean during this epoch, including those in the regions of Magna Graecia.[10] Of the 7,000 extant nuraghes, only a few have been scientifically excavated. Many Nuragic cultural traits and values were inherited by the Etruscans and by the Romans.

      ~They are sure it isnt the Scots or the tribes of Israel……….they know that, might as well rule out everyone else too now.
      One thing we know, if it was the Scots or Israel they wouldnt tell us. What the heck good is it being a Doctor, Professor, Teacher, Priest, Scientist, Lawyer, Investigator, etc today? Theyre all scared sh**tless of the Jews. Everything investigated today should be first considered with the Jew Factor.

      Another thing I would like to tell the ani (anuses) Duke and MacDonald to their faces is, “carbon dating is bunk” and there isnt a damned thing they can do about it. It means we have to use our brains not some nutty professors (or supposed doctors) brains. David Duke was on once again today claiming Jews are a distinct race. What I would like to ask him is, if Jews are a race, what is the common denominator?

      What he is saying is a Jew may not be a Jew because his father wasnt a Jew or his mother wasnt a Jew. Therefore show me who the first female Jew was. If there is a race of people there has to be two similar ancestors, Jews cannot claim this unless they claim to be all the Hebrews and Adam and Eve, you see? This is why these imbeciles can never be Doctors or Professors……………..they are sh**!

      • Louis says:

        Those Scottish Brochs look exactly the same but they are even better because they are double walled (flue pipe) , as you know you can not date rocks by carbon dating ,only organic matter that is on that site that belong to the same time the structure was built, good luck with that. those structures could generate very high temps for melting steel and the stone would not explode because of the double wall.
        who is this mass of pollution (massimo pallottino)?
        I was on a job and the plumber called the jew homeowner,hebrew,the jew took it as an insult and went off on the guy, a half hour later i say canannite,he says “canannite?’i say YEAH, he turns and scoots away, it made me think that he hated being called hebrew because he secretly hates true hebrews but did not want to persue the canaanite because he is.

    • melgibstein says:

      You are a Mason contractor and you arent a Mason? How can that be? That is why I know Jews did not begin the so called Masons, they infiltrated it. The original masons were supposedly Phoenicians who built Solomons temple, who is going to build the Jews temple? Why in the hell would “a separate people” allow a foreign people to do “anything” for them. Is this like some little “pet” group of people who do the Jews bidding so Jews can continue their charade? Of course. How do we know who is who?

      HY double Po cri “Hypocrisy”

      Thats how we know!

      Being separate doesnt mean to be supreme or to be subservient, it means “be separate”. Are Jews incapable of building an ark too? Absolutely.

      • Louis says:

        maybe i was too hard on Massimo, after rereading he did not say anything wrong,he just did not say anything right,like the phoenicians most likely built it,it is honest guesswork to say that. haahaha a jew do stone work or brick ,or tile even, i have seen some examples of it,hhaahaaha,what a slop job,,maybe lay brick pavers in sand ,that is all.

      • melgibstein says:

        Dont you know Israelites ehhhh Jews had to gather their own straw to make bricks? Could you imagine having Jews as slaves and being on a quota? Every country in the world wanted Jews out of their countries, but Egypt wanted to keep them? As the Jew Spock would say, this is not logical.

      • Louis says:

        i am wrong for calling jews,canaanites, jews are parasites and serpent seedline anti christs, the canaanites at least had the ability to build and form a civilization,okay they were pagan but not parasites,maybe calling a scumbag parasite anti christ jew a canaanite is actually a compliment, maybe i am wrong but not as wrong as eustice mullins saying “when Moses was leading the jewish people out of egypt” or “when Moses saw the jewish people making a golden calf” etc.

  20. Louis says:

    about these smelting furnaces,the academics say that a hearth is at the bottom and galleys are set up in them at upper levels to house the elite in times of trouble(like a scaffolding of living spaces) right,your going to live above a roaring fire(or even a small one) i can not even stand near my wood stove when it gets hot.The small holes in the walls are for an apparatus that tilts the kettle of molten steel into a chute or molds.

    • melgibstein says:

      Maybe Jews were “schmaltzing” in them

      Homemade Jewish-style schmaltz is made by cutting chicken or goose fat into small pieces and melting in a pan over low-to-moderate heat, generally with onions. After the majority of the fat has been extracted, the melted fat is strained through a cheesecloth into a storage container. The remaining dark brown, crispy bits of skin and onion are known in Yiddish as gribenes.

      mmm mmm good! Soccer cone schmaltz coming up!

  21. melgibstein says:

    This is how David Dukes DNA helps crypto Jews

    Avery is also the name of the “Loose Change” producer on the Jew synopsis of 9/11

    Funny how there are cases proving murderers couldnt have done the crime through DNA testing, but the murderers are still in jail because of a thing now called “old fashioned evidence”
    Roy Criner for instance

    75 people have been released from jail because of DNA evidence, Id like to see each one of these cases and I bet 80% of them are Jews.

    I bet all the Jewish Ritual Murder cases were all pinned on the Jews and DNA will prove them innocent too. Yes, Barry Sheck can prove it (and David Duke).

    • Louis says:

      i am betting with the house(you)

      • melgibstein says:

        How about the Mojave desert? Spelled with a “J” too? What does Magave sound like? Just a hunch.
        Indian word (Mojave: ‘Aha Makhav)- why all these coincidences?

        Other definitions claim Mojave was the Spanish word and the Indian word was different.
        Hamakhaave, which means “beside the water.”
        Where did that “k” come from? Macavee? I could be miles off but still closer than what we were given.
        I knew the “M” would be there but the “k” too?

        Im sure its less important than the Stormfront show on the Juif Rense network who also has UFO and Bigfoot shows.
        It has to be more important than John Stadmiller interviewing one of his Communist friends, maybe not.
        How about Alex Jones and his stories about Muslims controlling our media or the Nazi’s in Antarctica by some of the Frank Collin white movement Nazi’s?

        Which is dumber?

        The connections of the Phoenicians and the Greeks are hidden and the connections of the Phoenicians and the Israelites are hidden. If you look at Cadmus’s lineage you see Agave, but if you read about Agave she is always known as a Greek then you have Josephus making the claim that these supposed Greeks who were actually Phoenicians were also related to the so called Jews (Judah) in Palestine. Nobody ever claimed the Phoenicians didnt get around, they got all the way around and why they eventually lost to the Romans after kicking their arses several times because they were too spread out and Romans were kept inside the Med.

        Jews (Judeans) would have to make the claim they are also Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans etc and they cant do it. Only white people can do it.

        The trouble with white people is, they get wiped out through race mixing and thats what happened in America (Armorica or even the real Atlantis) without a doubt. Maybe some didnt give in at all. Like the story of Wynona, an Indian (which is also a Roman Goddess) who didnt give in to race mixing just like Dido the Phoenician queen and killed herself rather than mix her genes. This was after Moses too.

  22. melgibstein says:

    Tell me something Louis or anyone else….When you see a city named Phoenix, Agave (daughter of Cadmus) plants, Indians who have symbols exactly like the Phoenix or Thunderbird and have swastikas, oh and the stone at Los Lunas arent people supposed to react? Maybe they’re waiting for someone else to. Were these people just acting like Phoenicians whom they didnt know?

    • Louis says:

      very good point, i am reading about the agave now, they are very high in phenolic compounds, wha, right in our faces.

    • Ray Zerwitt says:

      They found a lot more than the Los Lunas Stone. There’s the ruins of a fort on top of that hill, where they found lead scrolls chronicling a perpetual war with an Injun tribe related to the Toltecs. The names of the people in those scrolls are Israelite names. That bears heavily on history, but is just ignored. And what about those mounds, just like the Celtic mounds of Europe. Isn’t Jeremiah buried in a mound in England?

      I come to find out ‘University’ means ‘guild of professors’. They’ll decide what you learn. Who is the president of all these guilds? They look a lot like these journalism guilds ABCNNBCBS… Fox news for hens. How do they get so unified in their bullshit? The Rechabites of 1Chr 2:55 and Jer 35 again; the loud speech, censorship and monopolizing blueprint works every time. The censorship would include chiseling a line through the first Commandment on that Los Lunas Stone and vandalizing the Celtic settlement Barry Fell found in New England, before he could visit the place twice. They could only have come from the Universities. Who knows what all they’ve burned, re-buried and sunk to the bottom of the ocean, especially in Palestine. Dr. Wesley Swift cited evidence that he saw and touched and examined that isn’t to be found anymore. Just like with every new edition of encyclopedias, the truth is airbrushed out until it’s a total whitewash. They whited out the true geneologies of Israel and penciled their own in. Yahshuah proved that when he caught that Israelite spying on him in a tree. It’s what they do. When did it start?

      See if your local library will let you take a look at the 1911 – 1924 edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica. They have that tucked away in the censored reading room. One thing you’ll find in it is Khazaria. Willie Martin can tell you about those rooms.

      • melgibstein says:

        Jews have knocked off every museum in the Middle East. The Jew TV consolidates all the lies into one bundle for all of us. We cant even discuss this without some Jew out there screaming on one of the internet shows or TV to stamp it out before it gets any legs. Its hard to stamp out the truth, but easy to sway people wherever you want them to go when the truth is stomped out and why we need to forget where the Jews are trying to take us and start taking them back to the sewers of Poland where they belong (one of the places anyway).

  23. melgibstein says:

    The symbol of the Phoenicians was a palm tree. The Greek word “phoinix” in Strongs Concordance is a “date palm” or a “palm tree”. In actuality “Palm Sunday” was “Phoinix Sunday” but the Greeks and the Romans later hated the Phoenicians (why is still a mystery to me). “Palm tree” in Hebrew was tamar as in “Tamar”. You have to ask how “tamar” became “palm” or “palmier”, “palmu”, “palmi” it has the root of “palm” in every European language.

    For those of you who dont know where the name “Tamar” comes from, it was Judah’s daughter in law of the lineage of Shem.
    Willy Martin gives definitions of the word “tamar” here
    If this definition is for Tamar it is also for the Phoenicians.

    Kings 9:18
    1Ki 9:18

    And Baalath, and Tadmor (Tamar) in the wilderness, in the land,

    Tools specific to 1Ki 9:19

    Unchecked Copy Box 1Ki 9:19

    And all the cities of store that Solomon had, and cities for his chariots, and cities for his horsemen, and that which Solomon desired to build in Jerusalem, and in Lebanon, and in all the land of his dominion.

    And all the people that were left of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, which were not of the children of Israel,

    Unchecked Copy Box 1Ki 9:21

    Their children that were left after them in the land, whom the children of Israel also were not able utterly to destroy, upon those did Solomon levy a tribute of bondservice unto this day.

    Unchecked Copy Box 1Ki 9:22

    But of the children of Israel did Solomon make no bondmen: but they were men of war, and his servants, and his princes, and his captains, and rulers of his chariots, and his horsemen.
    These were the chief of the officers that were over Solomon’s work, five hundred and fifty, which bare rule over the people that wrought in the work.

    “Prince” or “priest” is “Kohanim” or “kohen”. Solomons work was building the temple. Who built the temple again?

    You can see the connection of Tamar and “Palmyra” in this, but was it in Southern Palestine or Northern Palestine?
    Was Palmyra of Syria really a “devil worshiping place”? Was Baal always a lesser god?

    Hosea 2:16

    And it shall be at that day, says the LORD (YHWH), that you shall call me Ishi; and shall call me no more Baali.

    “Ishi” was the bad word here not “Baali”. If we have anyone who can shed more light on this please do, but the fact is “Tamar” and the root of “palm” seem to be the same thing,

    The Palmyra associated with Solomon was also associated with Lebanon and Israelites, all others were taken over or killed………these so called Phoenicians (a geographical location and people living in Lebanon) were the people who built Solomons temple and not a single Jew was involved.

    Tadmor was Palmyra? The question is now, if phoinix was the Greek word for Palm why wasnt it “Phoinixyra”? Truth is the Phoenicians never called themselves Phoenicians it is what Greece and Romans called them. We obviously have no books on what Phoenicians called themselves or what they called the Greeks and Romans. The Greeks and Romans destroyed everything of the Phoenicians and took everything as their own and why so much Greek mythology is really Phoenician. Phoenicians kept these two entities from going out of the Med so who was out of the Med all this time? It isnt that difficult to figure out.

    “History is bunk” a very good man once said. Phoenicians kept these people inside the Med because, to quote a Jew movie, “they couldnt handle the truth!”.

    Historian Josephus on Tadmor
    “When he had therefore built this city, and encompassed it with very strong walls, he gave it the name of Tadmor; and that is the name it is still called by at this day among the Syrians; but the Greeks name it Palmyra.”- Josephus. Antiquities of the Jews 8.6

    Tadmor in Assyrian Records
    “Tadmor is mentioned in the Assyrian records of Tiglath-pileser as tadmar sa mat amurri, “Tadmor of the Amurru country” (ANET, 275).

    The city is mentioned as part of Solomon’s building program immediately after the recounting of his conquest of Hammath-zobah in Syria. Therefore the identification of Tadmor as the city mentioned in the Assyrian records, later known as Palmyra, is clear.” (ABD 6.307, Sidnie Ann White, “Tadmor,” 1992)

    2 Chronicles 8:4 And Solomon built Tadmor in the wilderness, and all the store cities, which he built in Hamath.

    Hamath [N] [H] [S]

    fortress, the capital of one of the kingdoms of Upper Syria of the same name, on the Orontes, in the valley of Lebanon, at the northern boundary of Palestine ( Numbers 13:21 ; 34:8 ), at the foot of Hermon ( Joshua 13:5 ) towards Damascus ( Zechariah 9:2 ; Jeremiah 49:23 ). It is called “Hamath the great” in Amos 6:2 , and “Hamath-zobah” in 2 Chronicles 8:3 .

  24. melgibstein says:

    Something that confuses me, Solomon had men of war and nobody says anything against Solomon for that, not CI pastors, not the John Hagee Christian evangelists, not the Jews and not even Catholics, how could Jesus ever had been born if these Israelites did not become men of war?
    However we have the “evolutionist” nutbags of Renegade Radio and Stormfront who do not believe in war against the Jews (their war seems to be against Christianity) nor do our 20 year veterans like Texey Marrs out there, in fact the Catholics, the CI pastors and Christian Evangelists do not believe in war against the Jews (only against non Jews).

    My my my we need to have a talk, but guess what folks, you cant. They cant be reached, you see they are dishers and not eaters.

    The Jew in Mel Gibsons movie was against war too if you can believe it.

    “I amm in Hell!”

  25. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Shall call me “Ishi”? What does Ishi mean? I was told that ‘god’ and ‘jesus’ mean baal. ‘God’ comes from Gud-baal, from the catholic encyclopedia, I think, and ‘Jesus’ means ‘hail Zeus’ or ‘father Zeus’. Paul came up with that one to appeal to the Greeks.

  26. Ray Zerwitt says:

    Oh, and how does that i as a suffix change the meanings of those. Doesn’t ‘ish’ just mean ‘man’?

    • melgibstein says:

      “You will call me husband and no longer call me Master.” Im betting there is even more to it than that.

      As far as I know it means “husband” or “of” and how we get words like Irish, English etc. (mortal men). Baali was indeed “baal”, but at one time “baal” meant the supreme God and God of the sun. I have read in some books about the Phoenicians that they started to worship Ashtarte which was a lesser God (ashtarte has the root of “astro” or “star” God like asterisk *) . Rempham and Kiun were also stars or planets, they all have prefixes of moons, stars, planets like Saturn etc. but the supreme God was baal or “Bel”. This is similar to “bald” and comes around to “white” like Bela Russia or Bella Donna which later was known as pretty woman and not jus white woman, white was always associated with purity and holy. To me it is complete proof that these people were indeed baal worshipers, but it didnt always mean they were worshiping other Gods, but they did eventually as the book says and no doubt what Beltaine grew into, that and a lot of words in the earlier languages.
      Bulgaria most likely means “bright sun”, “grian” in Irish means sun and “bel” “bal” “bol” “vul” “vol” prefixes among others more than likely come from bel or baal. I think the problem was there were other sun Gods like Beelzebub, Jews got in and infect names as they have been doing forever and no doubt why YHWH had to be known as YHWH.
      The fact that these Israelites did indeed become baal worshipers of the wrong kind is exactly what the book says to a T (or a B in this case).

      Judas of Ishcariot of Cariot, an Idumean city.

    • melgibstein says:

      more like “man of” I think, Ray. I dont know why I said ishi was a bad word above that is not what I meant. What I meant was it was a new word for them to use not to confuse with the gods of the non Israelites. You could probably use a lot of words for “ishi” all having to do with separate with, maybe apart with. Its a good way to see that the English were not necessarily the British, but the Scottish were the British, but both claim to be Scythish earlier on. Only problem with all of this is ish was associated with YHWH and not a land mass.

  27. melgibstein says:

    They say the Volga River means something other than white, they say it means “moist”, it was originally a Scythian name, but Volga Germans renamed it “The Volga Germans” does this mean that one of my favorite women of all time, Catherine the Great was a “moist” German? I dont think so.

    Even the Bal-tic Sea was known as the White Sea.

    The canal empties out into the Soroka Bay of the White Sea at Belomorsk (Bel again).

    I am betting the Volga was the white river which was tied into the White Sea or “Baltic” even the usual “V” is German where the Scottish would be a B, the Irish would be a F, the Welsh a Gw and the vowels are always mixed up. They might be different letters but you could go across Europe and the Middle East and find the root of “white” literally everywhere (and only where white people lived).

    Like I was saying before the sun, stars and planets had prefixes and in Egypt “Ra” was the God of the sun. Some say Israel means God rules and some say “God shines”. The name of the river the Scythians gave it before it was the Volga was “Ra’ or “Re”- prefix of Rempham

    This guy explains how Bel became a bad word on page 57, I think he’s probably right, but that and a dollar wont get you into the jew movies, you didnt want to go anyway.

  28. Roy says:

    Hey Mel…………..

    Do you think the study of language is the most powerful argument for White Israel theology?

    Of these: Ancient Chronicle; Philological; and Archaeological…

    Which do you believe is the more powerful argument?

    • melgibstein says:

      I think they are all important, but anyone who wants the truth has to find a way in and I think language is the fastest way in. To think our language comes from Jews, a people who have literally invented nothing is why I know this. I think a lot of the truth about Jews is simply comparing what is going on right now and using it in the past, they have the same MO throughout history. They make nothing, they write nothing of any value, they have no military heroes, their is no honor in them, they steal whatever they obtain through stealth and making their victims believe them. One of the most important points in the Bible is to never trust Jews, but we walk over dead bodies to trust them. I cant trust anyone or anything until I can verify it and I can verify that Jews could never be people of YHWH and never were, they sure as hell wouldnt have written that Yashua called them sons of Satan’
      I think the Jews have taken over all of the historical areas and their museums including Phoenician history in Syria and Libya. Its more proof to me they know exactly what they are doing, they have to destroy the evidence because the evidence is going to turn them into stubble a little earlier than expected. They know some of us are on to them and in my opinion only God can give us that final truth to pin the tail on the Jew donkey. Jews run the media for that reason, I have yet to see a Jesus movie depicting Caiphas as an Edomite or how they became high priests to begin, when I see a movie like that I’ll have to rethink the whole thing over, but the fact that there isnt a movie depicting this truth of the Bible makes me know Jews are covering up archaeology and all the facts relating to that subject. The one thing they cant eradicate is language, although they do try like hell.

      Most importantly on these subjects I believe it is “who” you learn history from (eventually it has to be accepted by your spirit). You can have a Masters Degree like David Duke in History and know zero about the Bible like him. In the end what is that knowledge worth? What is it Melvin used to say? “Fairst ya laern how ta use thas and then ya laern how ta use thas.” They make sure you dont ever learn the first part and they never want to learn the second part. We all know the jew fool system is a damned abomination, it is all BS and none of it acceptable to my spirit because it leaves out all of true history of the Jews and of the great men and women who died fighting them literally or philosophically. That is the only history that is important to me.

      Why do Jews call themselves “Jewish” dont they know their own language (sic)? Why dont Jews call themselves Yehudish or Israelitish? Well they cant say Israelitish because they broke off from the House of Israel supposedly and they cant say Yehudish because the tribes of Benjamin and Levi may not like that, maybe “beth Yehudish”? How about Iudaiosish? No, then we may start thinking that Judah and Judean are not the same word so Jew or Jewish it is. They leave the rest for you to figure out and if you figure it out the wrong way “you’re an antisemite” even if you dont believe they are semites. It isnt important what YOU think only what da Joo’s think. Its Romper Room in real time.

      • Roy says:

        I was thinking about that post over at Renegade. Clearly we will never change the minds of people like Axe of Perun and Rene, but I have this sense of responsibility that if given the opportunity, we must drop ‘truth bombs’ whenever possible for any unsuspecting ‘fence sitter’. You seem to have a really good handle on ‘language’. But the study of language seems arduous. I’m thinking about ‘truths’ that would be very simple to state in comment sections such as Renegade. Any ideas?

      • melgibstein says:

        They allowed one comment of mine and that was it. Game over.

  29. melgibstein says:

    Here is another article for the David Duke retards.

    Tomorrow David Duke will be talking about why Blacks have such wide nostrils (he claims its because of the heat). Take a look at these Africans folks. Their nostrils are just like the Welsh, Irish and Scots (and every other European white). Duke wouldnt know if Africa was made out of pizza dough or not. Herzog (Duke) has never been south of Tel Aviv.

    You have to ask “Why do we have to search for this stuff?” Why is none of this ever on the History Channel? What you will get on the History Channel is a Black Hannibal, imagine seafaring negroes? I guess if Hannibal was Black then Himilco was Black too? Its a total charade folks. But this is what David Duke also believes. It cant even be entertained, it is simply brushed off as conspiracy BS to look at the facts. If our own people are doing this and our supposed fearless leaders, what does that say for us? Why are white people so docile when it comes to their own history? Are they being mind manipulated? Ask these so called doctors and professors where they come from and they will tell you we all come from the same place (Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Amazonian and Hindu, etc) yet they claim the Europeans came from the North Pole or Atlantis to a continent named after a Phoenician. Folks this is deliberate quashing of truth!

  30. melgibstein says:

    I used to be able to upload pics here from my computer but Word Press is always changing things.

    I cant make anything bold or italic- nothing. I guess I had too much power.

    The Black Sea as far as I can see was renamed by the imbecile Nero to Mar Nero (HE MARRIED A jEWESS). The Romans had a seething hatred for the Phoenicians even though they stole all their knowledge of the sea. When Hannibal took his men around the Alps and spared Rome, the Romans used that weakness and attacked Carthage (there had to be Jews involved in that treachery). I know this sea was renamed because they renamed the link to prove “Iberian” was the same as “Hibernian” which was the Roman word for Iberian (Eberean or Ibrian) when they renamed the Hibernian or Iberia Sea located in the Western Med near the gates of Hercules to Mare Nostrum (Our Sea). In other words it isnt yours anymore, yes that was easy to do when most of them had already been through there and on up to Brittany, Britain, Hibernia, Scandinavia etc.

    I have a map in Greek that I download a while ago that shows half the Black Sea was “Mar Nero” and the other half was the Pontos Euxenos (the very word “sea” comes from the root of “Phoenician”, again the Miletians were often called Greeks, but they were Phoenicians, Cadmos was a Miletian

    This word Euxeinus or any one of its spellings supposedly meant “inhospitable sea” proving it had a different name, but I am willing to bet it was even a more Phoenician word making the Romans want to change it.

    The term Euxinus Pontus is the Latinized version of the Greek εύξεινος πόντος ‘Euxinos Pontos’ and is the historical name commonly used to describe the body of water we know as the Black Sea. The Euxinus ‘εύξεινος’ part of the term which means ‘hospitable’ is believed to be a euphemism of aksenos (Grk: άξενος). Aksenos means inhospitable and is believed to describe the difficulty in navigating the water and also the savage tribes that historically surrounded it. The name later changed to Euxinus after the Miletians colonized it and made it part of Greek civilization. In French, the Black Sea is called Mer Noire.

    The word Pontos ‘πόντος’ was first used by Homer (circa 850 BC) in the context of describing the sea. It was also used with other words to describe certain bodies of water, eg Icarios Pontos, Thrikios Pontos etc. The famous poet Strabo (64BC-24AD) mentions Euxinos Pontos when referring to Jason, Medea, Aiti, the Colchians (see Geographica).

    The famous poet Isiodos (c.~700 – 800 BC) states that Pontos was the father of many gods. He adds that Pontos was born from Gaia (but not out of a sexual encounter). To poets, Pontos was usually used to refer to a large body of water, although some writers used the term when describing certain high seas. Apart from these it was also used to describe channels or narrow waterways that joined other larger bodies of water eg the Hellespont.

    The father of history Herodotus mentions Pontos in a different way. While he is aware of the Euxine, he doesn’t describe the word as being the north-eastern region of Asia Minor. On one occasion he talks about the interior of Pontos by implicating it with the region of Europe that is directly exposed to the waters of the Euxine. He also uses the word Pontos to describe the Mediterranean Sea.

    While Herodotus knows the races of people of the region quite well, he appears to have wrong ideas about the northern region of the Euxine.

    The term ‘the Pontos’ or simply ‘Pontos’ from the 5th century BC onwards starts being used to describe the Euxine and is used in this context by Aescilus, Thucidide, Euripides, Aristophanes, Aristototle, and others.

    The epithet ‘Ponticus’ also starts being used to describe the people who lived around the shores of the Euxine and later to describe those who lived in all of Pontus eg Heraclides Ponticus.

    The Med was also referred to as Ponto or Pontus because it was relating to Phoenicians who were there first as they were in the Black Sea first

    Greece and Rome wouldn’t have even had an alphabet if not for the Phoenicians, let alone a sea worthy ship to sail in. What they did was help cover up the identity of Israel dispersion (and I dont mean Jews).

  31. melgibstein says:

    Saint Carthage the Elder (or Carthach) was an Irish bishop and abbot in the sixth century. His feast day is March 5.

    The saint is mainly known as a disciple and successor of Ciaran of Saighir (the Elder) and the tutor and fosterer of his greater namesake, Saint Carthage of Lismore (also known as Saint Mochuda).[1] Carthage was of the Eóganacht Chaisil and son, or, more probably, grandson of Óengus mac Nad Froích whom Saint Patrick baptized. He was punished by St. Ciaran the Elder with penance for a sin of the flesh committed in his younger days. On completion of his canonical penance, Carthage was reinstated as a member of the religious brotherhood of Saighir. Afterwards he founded the monastery of Druim Fertain and another monastery in the upper island of Lough Sheelin, County Meath.

    Im sure the word Carthage or Carthach relating to Carthaginian is just a coincidence (another one) even though the Irish too were related to the Miletians or Milesians who both passed through Iberia (East and West) on the ventures north.

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